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[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The great thing about manjaro is, that when it finally bricks itself you can install a proper distro on it. https://github.com/arindas/manjarno

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Even better is you don't even need to wait those three days. You can replace it straight away! :-)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Three is pretty charitable, I usually run updates on the first day...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used Manjaro for about a year around 2019 and it was awful.

I liked its selling point on being based on Arch and having access to AUR, but the official repositories would only have stuff that is vetted to work on the current release of Manjaro (at least that's what I had heard about Manjaro at the time)

The amount of times a package update shit the floor is too many to count.

Before that I was using Ubuntu and for the most part it was fine.

The first distro I used was Mint since the desktop environments, Cinnamon, resembled Windows XP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Read through the link i provided. The major point i take issue with, is their package repository. They basically delay every package for a few days to call them 'stable'. This behavior makes it by definition incompatible with the AUR. One of the major reasons so many Manjaro systems break. The other reason is their awful package manager.

I ran my manjaro install for over 3 years but never touched pamac and instead used pacman and paru. I was simply too lazy to set up another distro at the time.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Manjarno isn't even a good choice for desktops though

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Available in only black and white colors.

Unusable and not fit for purpose. There needs to be an orange color as an option in order for this product to make any sense whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

IDK, what does "Pi" have to do with anything? Orange Pi is a Raspberry Pi-like device running an ARM SOC and their Orange Pi 800 also uses an ARM SOC.

The Orange Pi Neo doesn't have an ARM chip, isn't at all related to the Raspberry Pi, and isn't Orange. It's like their trying to mix the branding of Raspberry Pi and Ayaneo, without understanding what makes either cool.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Terrible branding because I at first thought it was an underpowered system that would only be good for retro gaming.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Orange Pi is a brand that has some recognition as a Raspberry Pi knockoff. Presumably it's the same people leveraging that existing brand.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

why a desktop distro like Manjaro and not something like Bazzite that's actually made for gaming handhelds?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or just HoloOS. Steam Deck has proven the design, why overcomplicate things?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bazzite seems to perform better overall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it looks nice. But they could probably get Valve to maintain their hardware in SteamOS if they approach them. But maybe Bazzite is also low effort, IDK.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Just put bazzite on it, that would be my first step

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Well it's a Manjaro project... it would be pretty weird if they used another Linux distro for their own project.

FWIW I'm guessing it's going to be heavily customized and not bear a great resemblance to desktop Manjaro, like SteamOS doesn't resemble regular Arch.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This seems like a scam.

The website is image-only.
Not having any selectable text is super sketchy.

It uses "Orange Pi" but isn't running on an Orange Pi.

If you go to the real manjaro website: https://manjaro.org/ and search for "neo", this doesn't come up:
https://manjaro.org/search/?query=neo
...or orange pi
https://manjaro.org/search/?query=orange+pi

Edit: People are saying that is it real. If it is, they really need to make it seem less sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They literally had an event lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That event was just a Gif.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Which is fine and all, but they need to make it seem less sketchy.

There have been handheld gaming devices scams that have had events before, using either the one working prototype, or someone else's device with a difference housing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So they called it an "Orange Pi", but it is not an ARM SBC.

That's an interesting choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They have a platform at least? Some day they may release one. The main problem with arm gaming is that you could also do it on a phone+controllers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Is that a collab I wonder... Logo looks similar

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, the more Linux-based handhelds, the better! I would prefer a handheld with RK3588S, but this one is interesting too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The AMD apu is far superior but also far more expensive. Their gpu is just unbeatable. Also software support is guaranteed on x86.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but I usually run emulators and open source ports, so with an ARM I would have more battery life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No you wouldn't. The Rockchips are far less efficient than AMD's modern X86 stuff.

AMD's new stuff is on par with the M1 in efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even despite they require active cooling? Didn't know, cool! Now the only downside is size.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I don't know if he's correct on low power use cases, but the cooling is way more about the high power use cases.

The steam deck can chew through it's battery in ~2 hours or last something in the neighborhood of 8-10 depending what you run on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Guess I was wrong, when I surmised in the other thread that it's just a Manjaro image.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Ah here we fucking go again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

The last line completely detered me

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

7840U is a beast. That's what Framework puts in their high-end AMD laptop.

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