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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Well of course they live there; that's one of Frank Lloyd Wright's worst designs. They're not going to live in one of his masterpieces, are they?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

70's architecture and water damage, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But does it come with asbestos fireproofing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Nah, you don't need it, the relative humidity is 100%.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is one of the reasons nobody likes movies anymore. Hollywood is so disconnected from the struggle of the working class it’s just sad. The Oscar’s have become a joke

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You got me thinking over here.

Perhaps it's a two way street, and both sides have changed.

It used to be that people wanted to suspend their beliefs for an hour and a half and live in a fantasy. I feel like most people look more for reality and relatability in cinema these days, but Hollywood is still trying to provide the escape.

It's just not lining up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My theory is Instagram and “insta-type-influencers” stole that market. It’s glamour fantasy, distilled. Less attention required, no complicated movie stuff in the way. And it gets a lot of eyeballs.

Glamour movie celebs are relics coasting on inertia, hence the constant stories of a $10 million paycheck for one movie being, uh, unsustainable.


Hence, I’m hoping Hollywood has a “medium sized” indie renaissance kinda like gaming is having now. Animation and filming is still pretty expensive, but it feels like tech has to be eroding the mega studio cost advantage.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When I was a kid growing up in the Middle East in the 80s and 90s I idolized the hollywood/US TV western lifestyle. They all seemed so effortlessly lavish and nice. All sitcom/domcom families had large homes and all the kids had their own rooms and those kids didn't need an allowance. They could get jobs like waitresses or paperboys that earned a half decent pay that allowed them to afford whatever the hell they wanted. I lived in Dubai they forbade all child labor. Even if those laws were ignored in some circumstances, they were generally quite strictly enforced. So unless you were a debt-slave camel jockey kid, you were not going to work at any job.

I legit thought that that was the reality of many people. Even young adult slackers with chronic unemployment issues still somehow had small houses bigger than any apartment I knew. Of course this was myth, and ever since the 2000s rolled along with nearly 40+ years of stagnant wages AND rising costs of everything else meant that that idea is dead.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Grew up in the ghetto of the US.

Would watch Fresh Prince and Family Matters and like "WOW look at that. Their house is so pristine. Everything looks new. Everyone has their own room. People sit at a dining table."

My house was dark, smelled funny, full of random junk and we'd have mattresses on the floor to fit a large family.

All my hood friends had the same experience. I had friends whose bedroom also their living rooms.

Now I have friends who have a lot of money. 6 figure incomes and everything. Their house is slightly better looking, but that's about it. Still full of stuff. Messy if you surprise them on a off day.

Average American is no longer the standard for quality living.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Definitely looks a lot newer than that.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I'm not sure about elsewhere in the world, but daytime TV in the UK is full of programmes where people want to move house to somewhere a little nicer or chilled - whether it's to escape the rat race, bring up kids outside of a city, to retire, whatever. They have the strangest "contestants" though, like (and I'm pulling these from my arse but I doubt they're far from the truth) meeting Tarquin, 44, a part time artist; and Helena, 49, who volunteers at the local farmers market.

"Their budget is 1.2 million pounds"

what the actual fuck

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My (half serious) conclusion is the contestants like you describe are either the no-I'm-not-wealthy class of idiots that have simply come from money and don't realise that's not the norm, or they're drug dealers that found a skilled accountant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'm under the impression that these shows are designed to make regular people think one or more of the follwiing:

  • if you stay in the race long enough and work hard enough, you can attain the same thing

  • if you can't, you're a failure = go drown your sorrows by being a good consumer.

  • be unhappy with their situation and persuaded to blame minorities or the government.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeap, same thing with "find my dream house" shows in America. I think the major difference is that instead of the people being in their 40s, it's usually people in their 20's. The source of the funding is ultimately the same, rich parents. The likely difference is between trust fund kids in the US and just people whose parents have finally taken their much awaited dirt naps in the UK.

I think rich parents are basically a prerequisite to owning a home for anyone under 40 nowadays. I'm one of the only people in my friend group of people in their late 30s who owns a home, and that was due to what I consider a minor miracle.

I was lucky and bought an abandoned house from the bank for 30k after the last recession, and that was only possible because I got a loan I probably shouldn't have qualified for through USAA. So, still a bit of nepotism, but because my dad was in the service, not because he was wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

My first house appraised for less than what we were paying for it. Not a lot, but more than we really had access to. My grandfather spotted the difference. So whole it's true I worked hard, it's little moments of privilege like that that really helped put me where I am today. I think folks in my position tend to over look it often. I'm 33 now. I think I'd still own a house, but all of this stuff compounds into each other. I would've had to pay exorbitant rent longer at an apartment complex. When I ended up selling that house I wouldn't have gotten that extra year's worth (or however long) back. It would've been less money to invest. It would probably mean we couldn't have bought as nice of a new house when we moved. All these little extra things from a family member being able to help spot the difference between the first appraisal and loan.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's the House Hunters trope. It's in the US too on HGTV.

Lisa is a 25 year old retired yoga instructor and Drew is a 28 year old brick layer who does crack in the alley behind his apartment. They are looking to upgrade into a home in the suburbs because Lisa is expecting any day now! Their budget is 3.5 million. Can they find a home?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

oh no, they have a bunch of requirements and accidentally spent double their budget on the house but are still just fine somehow

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Every single episode of those shows features a couple that has already purchased a house, and they pretend to give them two other choices to "pick" between.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The fake jobs are euphemisms for having a trust fund.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, same thing with House Hunters in the US. Those made really good memes. "Stacy, 23, who is a professional whistler, and her husband, Joe, 25, a part time stick weigher, are looking for a more relaxed pace and a smaller, cozier home. Their budget is 7 million, and they're looking for no less than 3,000 sq meters"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Those are good shows to hate watch in a hotel when you don't have anything else to do.

Except for this one time. It was an African American family where a single working mom had to use the dinner table to get work done after hours, her mom lived with them and had to sleep in the same bed as the younger daughter, and the teenage boy had outgrown the length of his bed.

I can't make fun of that. This family needs a new house.

Next episode had a white family. Their biggest problems were that the kids didn't each have their own bathroom, and they didn't live close enough to the golf course. Now that's more like it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Malcom in the middle had a realistic home.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which they only had because multiple people were murdered in the house, and Lois didn't tell the family.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Lol didn't know that plot twist but it tracks

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Having a home in general isn't exactly realistic anymore

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Things really have changed.

Rosanne was about a poor, blue-collar family struggling to get by that had a house with a detached garage and 4 bedrooms.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

This is one of the reasons I hate and ignore all advertising. Commercials have NO IDEA who they are marketing to anymore. All I can think about when any commercial or advert plays is how fucking out of touch the company is to be showing the product getting used in a 26000 sq foot house EVERY TIME. I don't have a garage, I don't have a lawn, I don't have a basement, I dont have a house, I don't have a dog, I don't have kids because none of this shit is sustainable or affordable. What world are you marketing to you board rooms upon board rooms of assholes?

If a vacuum cleaner company wants to correctly advertise a vacuum to the masses, they would now have to have the commercial show a lonely man getting off of the night shift of his 3rd job, taking a bus back to his squalor closet of an apartment, and then passing out gazing at the vacuum which has been sitting unused in the corner of the bedroom for 8 months, because the only world where he has the time and energy to use it is in his fucking dreams.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I don’t think Hollywood and advertising are out of touch, they know what they’re doing. They’re not just selling products, they’re selling an ideal. It’s about shaping how people see the world. For working-class viewers, it feels fake because it’s their reality being distorted. But for middle and upper-class audiences, it subtly shifts their perception, makes working-class life look manageable, maybe even confortable. They know it’s not 100% accurate, but they don’t realize how far off it is. That’s the real effect: it makes things look better than they are, and pushes people further out of touch without them realizing it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And funnily enough ads are way way more targeted now than any other time in history.

Apart from the obvious privacy concerns i actually prefer non targeted ads, because they are less effective.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

This is winding me right up. You see people in movies and you think straight away - there is no way you would be able to afford this house/car.

The same goes with them living without any noticeable employment for months. Or having a job but spending their working hours doing something else.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hollywood has done irreparable damage to society’s expectation of reality.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

And it doesn't even stop at the financial stuff where someone has an incentive to screw with society's expectations. All kinds of other aspects like friendships, relationships, parenting,... are strange in movies too.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

It's the system working exactly as designed. "you, too, could have all this if you only worked hard enough. Now that you've spent 2-3 hours of your weekend off at the movies, get back to work, slave"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Sean William Scott in Role Models - his job is to dress up as an energy drink mascot, but he lives on the canals at Venice Beach and has ordinary neighbours who he sees and talks to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you imagine taking a dump there

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is that a Frank Lloyd Wright?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yup, thats Fallingwater in Pennsylvania. Its a museum now and you can take tours of it

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Despite subsequent repairs to the parapet, the cracks there periodically reappeared. Fallingwater's problems were so numerous that Edgar Sr. referred to it as "Rising Mildew".

This part never fails to amuse me.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

seriously. or they'll have some 25yo running the CIA or something.

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