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The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

There's no such thing as a "vaccine skeptic".
Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they're still "skeptical" despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves "skeptics" because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 4 days ago (4 children)

“You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

"Name one person that died of cancer who never received a vaccine for anything. That's what I thought!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

F cancer.

Not that way...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If the word "skeptic" in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It's good to be skeptic about everything until you're shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren't really skeptic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Yeah, he's a liar, not a skeptic. He's denying evidence, not demanding it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

That's que literally what op said

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They really should review dihydrogen monoxide which is continually pushed by doctors but has a 100% mortality rate! DO YOUR RESEARCH!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Goodness me. It's so dangerous it eats away at untreated metal. How could they foist this dangerous mixture onto us. It's worse than micro plastics. I heard estimates that claim it's now found in every living American.... and may even be now found in almost all of our food. Absolutely disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is why RFK only drinks methylated paint thinner.

Well that and he confused the methyl-part with methamphetamine.

Don’t do meth. Or methyl alcohol. Both are awful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

methylene blue to be exact, he has been seen in a video, of him using a large dropper of methylene blue on a flight into his drink. he bought into the unsubstantiated reports of it being useful.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

The leading cause of death is life!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

WaPo strikes again with a plausibly deniable disinformation title, using the word "skeptic" wrong on purpose. I expect nothing less from Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Autism isn't a fucking defect

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

They are less susceptible to propaganda, which authorities figures hate.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These people have co-opted the work "skeptic".

I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god's role in my life, now I'm agnostic.

My parents became "skeptical" of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer "skeptical" but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find "proof" of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their "independent" researchers (crunchy influencers).

🤮

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

When you're agnostic you're just a closet atheist. It's not that atheists are sure there is no god, we're not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don't have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn't a god. Just be a nice person and you'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think we can be for sure, religious skeptic is an equally ridiculous term. It's like saying I'm a teacup-around-Saturn skeptic. In any reasonable meaning of the word "certain", "truth", or "sure", the teacup and any deity do not exist nor play any role in our lives. They deserve no consideration except for niche discussions in philosophy and epistemology. We should use the teacup example even in that case, not the deity one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don't know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

But that's just me.

I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the "Faith": I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

I feel like using terms like "vaccine skeptic" for these morons is a major PR win for them. It makes it sound way more legitimate than it is. Fuck corporate media sanewashing everything going on politically right now.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like I should start wearing a mask again in stores and other crowds, because this administration is going to kill me if I wait for the experts.

ps There are no experts anymore just these anti vaccine loony fuckshits.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I never stopped. And I damn well won't be anytime soon.

A large enough proportion of the populace has deemed it their God Given Right to infect anyone and everyone under the doctrine of "It's Just the Flu, Bro".

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

There was never a link to begin with. Never.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With data manipulation you can prove that vaccines cause pigs to fly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Of course. There are a larger number of vaccinated people who have used a trebuchet than non-vaccinated people, and trebuchets are a great way of helping pigs fly

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'd just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A third of eligible voters didn't vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (5 children)

No, 2/3rds.

The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn't vote for Harris.

In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn't care if this was the government.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

a slim majority

Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And how many eligible voters didn't bother to vote? They're also equally responsible for this.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Or third party"

I see the problem...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (10 children)

A two party system that uses first past the post?

Needs to change.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Someone please create a AI video of a debate with Trump about vaccines, where he gets dunked.

If they don't play fair, we don't have to either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right now, we can empirically accuse them of lying. They cannot do the same. The minute we start doing this, we lose that advantage. Lies dilute the truth.

Fighting fire with fire isn’t always the best tactic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Don't start speaking sense around here mate, they don't like it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

"LET'S FIGURE OUT AND CURE AUTISM" they say as if a considerable amount of humanity's greatest inventions/discoveries aren't accredited to people across the spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Being skeptic is not bad. Not seek nor relay on scientific evidences is the problem...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Mark Geier

Is that the patient 0 of that autism claim? The one that was discredited decades ago (both the person and the claim)?

The biggest problem with him was, he just couldn't admit he had been wrong and continued to spout the bullshit, thus discovering a moderately profitable grift. And now his son is continuing it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Headline later...

90% of people with autism were vaccinated! Vaccines cause autism!

Actual data later

90% of the population is vaccinated. The rate of autism in the 90% and remaining unvaccinated 10% is exactly the same.

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