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I made the wrong comment to a wrong reply, but i think Thinkpads are great. Except the premium thinkpads have Apple-esque prices but non of the Apple-esque support.
If there was a thinkpad with a good price (especially the newer thinkpads that have soldered RAM) I would buy it and replace my laptop. Not that I don't like my laptop (Its a Clevo, so I know what I'm getting), but ThinPads are pretty good and all rounded for many things.
I honestly will never understand why people buy macbooks.
Out here in Silicon Valley, the big driver is a) you need MacOS to develop for iOS, and b) people prefer the UX over Windows / Linux.
Also, the hardware tends be well supported and performant for many years…. As long as you’re not gaming.
It's UNIX with a million and one creature comforts and high build quality. The ThinkPad touchpad gives me a rash.
Audio editing tools. I love linux but... its still catching up
Disclaimer: Macbook user here.
Its okay for a lot of things. And its great for people who don't expect much. But for power users, the moment you start installing stuffs for QoL or for more functionality, its there and then (the lack of RAM) really makes one want to bite the fingernails. I'm running 24GB, but even then my memory pressure is on yellow and i've "offloaded" a lot of stuffs into Ferdium (as that was the only reasonable way of maintaining certain things).
But for those who use on the web stuffs for almost everything, a macbook is a much better chromebook, and it works really well for those who don't want to fiddle with anything.
But that price though. If Macbooks were priced lower (especially the RAM and storage upgrades) I think there will be a huge uptick of people buying the M-CPU Macbooks.
Agreed. I got the 16/512 (max specs) M1 Air for a decent price for the performance and battery life, and I currently run Linux on it, but I'm constantly bottlenecking both the RAM and SSD and it sucks that I can't upgrade it, will probably get a Framework when it dies
What Linux do you run and is it great? Now you are making me think I should plonk more money into a macbook once this macbook is too old and run both Mac OS and Linux.
Framework is a great hardware. I like their vision.
Great battery life on macOS, although turns out a lot of it involves software-related optimizations since with Asahi Linux it's barely better than x86
Number of reasons. Works well with Apple products, long battery life, way more powerful for most normal (sometimes applies to even some basic UI devs and small project video editing). It’s got great hardware. However Apple is a nightmare capitalist company that’ll try to dime and nickel you for every possible thing.
You must not have any tech illiterate old family that likes downloading sketchy stuff from the Internet.
Unified memory. On a current gen Mac work station you can functionally have 512GB of VRAM for AI tasks for under $10k. Good luck getting anywhere close with Nvidia or AMD.
They're also idiot proof, when I fuck up my CUDA drivers sending me down a 4-hour-long hunt for improperly installed visual studio files, a part of me is envious of Mac owners who will never know my pain.
People pay for the simplicity.
They’re also idiot proof
Real reason right here. They want a machine that essentially protects them from themselves. It's also why Chromebooks are so wildly popular in US schools; the kids can't fuck up the software.
Honestly, I’d love a cost equivalent laptop in could put Linux on in Europe, but for the money the MacBook Air is just really hard to beat
Ah yes, great post in the year 2010 when thinkpads weren't complete crap, yet.
I get the hate that goes Lenovo's way but I've had a 2022 P1 Gen5 since launch and I've absolutely kicked the living shit out of it and it keeps keeping on. Don't regret it.
I hope they used the official Apple cleaning cloth that's certified compatible with that model of MacBook
My work gave me an HP piece of crap laptop, I'd rather have a MacBook.
HP consumer equipment is pretty trash to be honest. Even their "business" models. Servers are solid though.
I can't stand Lenovo due to their Fn and CTRL key swapping places, dell is my go to for last 10 years.
you can swap their locations on bioslevel and never think about it again (unless one of your colleagues actually reads the labels, gets it wromg and you have to explain it to them)
I know, but I don't want to have to. Why can't they just match every other keyboard I've used my whole life? Wouldn't cost them anything, in fact I'd argue it was more effort to put a bios setting for it. CTRL is always bottom left key, no question. This is akin to changing homerow keys and telling you how to fix it in bios although the keys will still physically not match. Just wasted energy.
I have a pretty recent thinkpad that supposedly has "military grade durability". The plastic is literally falling apart at the corners after 2 years, and my fan grille is gone.
Fucking lenovo
Military grade is bullshit marketing. Basically anything is military grade
In Ukraine nowadays it means "anything that can survive up to one assault". I hear they take donated cars that no-one sane would drive or even pronounce street-legal.
It depends, sometimes milspec is very demanding. For example, crayons need to be non-toxic even if you eat the entire box.
I mean… tools, not jewels. It has a robust design for a reason. Develop that patina, kid. Don’t lose your mind over a scuff.
I've been buying second hand thinkpads for the last decade or so.
They arrive pre-scuffed so I don't need to worry.
ah, remember the time that Lenovo shipped spyware in the UEFI of Thinkpads?
Some context...
For one, it wasn't spyware, it was UEFI that, if a user had admin/root privilege, they could modify the firmware despite signinging procedures that should have prevented that. There was no spyware, there was no root kit, there was a vulnerability.
For another:
IdeaPads, Legion gaming devices, and both Flex and Yoga laptops.
Technically it never touched the ThinkPads. Despite some areas where things blur, ThinkPad is still relatively independent of the rest of the product line. While I may not think Lenovo is trying to actively spy on their consumer brands, they do screw up enough that I wouldn't want to touch them (not just security, they cut too many corners in general).
Using a generator to power a computer is a really bad idea. You'll significantly shorten the lifespan of the power supply. Ask me how I know.
Ask me how I know.
Ok. How?
Because I killed a PSU by plugging my PC into a gas generator once
To be fair, laptops have those bricks on the cord that help protect it from power oddities.
And that one weird slimline computer I had once that didn't have a traditional PSU and had a laptop charging cord, lmao.
Always use a UPS when you connect a PC to a generator. The UPS will protect it against surges and also smooth out the power
Thnx!
By typing the question in the comment box, but that's not important right now
