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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago

Good.

Say what you will about faceless corps, but toyota won't send some jackass out a the public face to do sieg hail, and be the gleeful butcher of government programs.

You have to be nestel levels of horrific before it breaks out of the corporate bubble.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 hours ago

If you buy a Tesla now, it says something about you as a person...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Lemmy, this is the 7th day in a row you've shown "Tesla sales down in Europe" news in Top.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We have this, crap copied from twitter or crap copied from reddit. Take your pick. :)

To be serious for a minute, I do wish there was more discussions and not just circle jerking. Its funny how everyone left the big platforms but still discusses the exact same things.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago

Feel free to post other good news. I’ll be happy to upvote.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can filter it out if you want. Whenever I read it I get warm fuzzies. It helps me cope.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Let’s get it to 90%. We can do it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

You can go to 110% if you burn enough tesla's

[–] [email protected] 84 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I wish people would also boycott Zuckerberg‘s products and Peter thiel‘s PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

I actively boycott Zuckerberg's offerings bar WhatsApp coz the bastard bought it out from under us. Fuck him, fuck Meta

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Aren't there alternatives to Paypal, like Wise and Revolut?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Germany tries to make one every two years. The newest one is called Wero/kwitt

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Do you need one?

I recently deleted my PayPal account and use a virtual credit card instead.

So far no issues with paying. In the rare case that credit card is not available you can always pay without account in PayPal via credit card.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Often enough the credit card payment still is done through PayPal, though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Wat? I have one I'm the one that suggested it 💀

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You went back to the banking industry and you report this event as a good thing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

You are telling me you are paying via PayPal without involving the banking industry?

I have the choice to either tell PayPal and my bank what I'm buying or just my bank. I chose the latter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

And wero from European paiement initiative that regroup all major french and german bank.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Far as I know it's more of a send money from phone to phone thing for now. My bank supports it, but it's only an option in the app which I don't use.
It is especially sad since it was meant to replace giropay, which actually was more like Paypal than wero is.
Let's hope it is just a matter of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It will be open later to shop and eshop. Probably around 2026. I saw a élog post about their roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Except in Germany you can chose from like three whole banks that participate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

No no way more

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, though I don’t think Thiel is involved in Paypal anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, you are right, not anymore, I don’t trust it though as it was founded by not only Peter Thiel but also Elon Musk.

PayPal blocks accounts that are politically controversial, such as some alternative media outlets, cryptocurrency platforms, or activists. Also Whistleblower organizations like WikiLeaks have been blocked and their funds frozen.

For these reasons I find a boycott completely justified.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

PayPal was not founded by Musk

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago) (1 children)

Deliver is not the same as sales. They are also launching a new model this summer so people could just be waiting. I know it’s a great news story, Europe bands together against Musk to show dissatisfaction with American politics, but it may not be true. If someone could find Tesla reports that delivers are far lower than expected I will change my mind.

I wanted to find their predictions for production in Q1 2025 to see if they planned for less deliveries before all this Musk hit the news cycle. The closest I got as 2024 Q2 production numbers. https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-second-quarter-2024

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 minutes ago

Yeah I'll believe it when I see the trend last more than a month or 2

[–] [email protected] 137 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Each time I see a new article about drop in sales, the percentage is higher. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I keep thinking it’s same article being reposted before noticing the drop is 10-15% greater than the last time I saw it. I hope he’s kicked from Europe entirely.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Elon truly is a genius businessman. Letting him run the government is clearly a great idea.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 hours ago

It's been said more than once, that Musk isn't an asset to a company but a liability. Tesla didn't succeed because of Musk but despite him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I mean he's become a whole lot richer. Tesla is just a casualty. Why he hasn't been ousted from the board or sued by investors, I don't understand.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago

Tesla is a meme stock in the disguise of a car company. It being down 30% means little, if anything volatility is good for big market players. Allows them to fleece more people. In a month Trump will announce a big tesla contract and it'll go back up.

Or so I tell myself because pessimism is easier to live with.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago

Beautiful news.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago

Brings a tear of joy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago

Music to my ears.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the UK being the only growth market speaks volumes

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not really. The UK is very anti-Musk and very anti-Trump.

Ireland and the UK being the only ones to grow is likely due to the way Tesla delivers Right-Hand Drive cars - they deliver them as one large batch each quarter rather than constantly trickling them out like LHD cars.

If you look at UK and Irish sales figures across multiple months, they swing between being up and down, depending on when RHD shipments come. Overall Tesla is down (and the UK even before Musk's recent actions bought far fewer Tesla cars than France or Germany)