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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (25 children)

I feel like a + shaped screw head would be as standard as a pyramid if multiple civilizations had developed screws independently. It wouldn't be the last kind, but it would be there somewhere. Maybe even a long, long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There are at least 3 standards for the + shape already. Phillips, Pozidrive, and Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS). They do not play well together.

insert obligatory xkcd standards reference

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't forget Frearson/Reed & Prince!

But wait, there's more!

And even more!

We only have standards so we can break'em.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

JIS has been obsoleted and replaced in Japanese products with the ISO Phillips bit shape. It still exists on lots of products pre 2000 though.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn't even as good.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You'd only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This guy mechanics

Indeed torx is so good because it attempts to maximize the surface where pressure is applied to. This is good on smaller sized bolts that are more prone to being rounded, but especially amazing when removing bolts that may have been exposed and potentially corroded

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Never had or seen a stripped Robertson, they are robust AF. Don't ask me the physics. (They go deep into the screw head because of the simple shape, maybe that has part of it. And they are tapered, it's not just a square, so they manage to grip the bit like a mofo. You don't cam out of a Robertson.)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Germany has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've stripped more internal hex than all other types combined

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

We have to go deeper.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Disappointed that the first comment isn't, "May the Torx be with you"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

These aren’t the post titles you’re looking for… 👋

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thought it was gonna be the Phillip's head strip

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

Edit: at least they didn't use Phillips screws

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Can't get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then why would they end up with philips instead of torx?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

They get sick pleasure from inflicting stupid fastener design on their users?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, if it works it works.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

Can we all agree that flathead should be outlawed and Phillips needs to get phased out with a quickness

Why are there so many fasteners 8min : https://youtu.be/5cA9bZRHpZE

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Officially, "flathead" refers to countersunk screws. Slotted screws are terrible for my purposes, but they actually do have 1 advantage. If they get mud or something caked up in the slot it's relatively easy to use a knife or some other pointy thing to clean it out. Guns and other things used in dirty environments often use slotted fasteners for that reason.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Somehow, Phillips head survived.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Um, actually, those are rigid kal'dron adjustment pins used to correct focus crystal orientation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Preventing cam-out with a Phillips screw is like learning the ways of the Force. It takes patience and skill, something the Empire’s rigid Torx would never understand.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Bet it’s an inch screw too

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

No wonder the Jedi failed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'd think that they would have switched to Pozidriv.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Why? Torx is better in every way. If you are going to change, why half ass it to Phillips 2.0

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