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Summary

Despite Trump’s criminal record, serial lying, and racist demagoguery, he won the 2024 US presidential election, reflecting America’s deep-seated anxieties and cultural divisions.

Trump’s celebrity persona, economic populism, and culture warrior appeals resonated with his base, while Kamala Harris faced challenges in defining herself and overcoming gender and racial biases.

The election underscores the decay of American democracy, raising concerns about the future of the nation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Article is a catalog of Trump's bumbling journey through life. He's a self-centered, bizarrely lucky idiot, who constantly screws himself over with his own actions, then trips on a rock and somehow he's fine.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They had four years to find him guilty of an insurrection, disqualify him from running, and put his ass in jail. They should not be a surprise to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats impeached him twice but there was no way he was ever going to be convicted with the Senate in its then-state. Meanwhile, his lawyers and Judge Cannon have been doing nothing but delaying until checks watch now! Unless you have an idea for speeding up the American judicial system? If there was enough support from any state to straight up not let him run, then they would have done so. But as we've seen, 40% of the American voting populace have the intelligence of a kindergartner and just votes for "the other party" when the economy isn't doing well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Real talk, it's so sad watching idiots idiot in spite of their goals and dreams.

[–] [email protected] 230 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It happened because Americans are easily fooled. This country has had all the evidence of what a total piece of shit this guy is, and they chose not to believe it because he played a business man on a fucking game show. It sucks for anyone who wanted to see America do well.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yup. With the high likelihood that Republicans get the trifecta, this country is about to become a lot more dangerous for my kids, both LGBTQ+, because dipshits believed that a "businessman" whose businesses all fail is good for the economy.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not just the LGTBQ kids. I worry about most kids. Child labor laws were getting more shakey already. Schools and education have been suffering. Healthcare also stands to take a hit. I'm worried.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Robert Kennedy is about to be put in charge of American health care and Elon Musk om our federal budget. When Musk said next 4 years was going be tough for the majority of Americans they meant it. Yet still majority voted for Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they actually move as fast as Trump has promised to, the next four years are going to be absolute chaos. Anything that relies on federal funding will be mired in uncertainty - 23 million people work for federal, state and local governments.

Edit - not to mention the tens of millions more who work for contractors and consultants who have contracts with federal, state, and local agencies

[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago

Every kid's future just got worse because of the impending abolition of the EPA (among other things) and shift back to a "drill, baby, drill" approach to climate change.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I'm tired of the "fooled innocent Americans" trope. Fuck that. They knew exactly what they did. Face the reality: half of Americans are now trumpists. FACE IT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I've seen vastly more ignorance than evil in my life, but it seems like some people prefer to feel surrounded by malevolence.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago

Yup. It's the Good German trope from the Nazi era. People knew damn well there was something awful going on.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago

They weren't fooled. They knew exactly what he is.

They didn't care.

That's the fallacy that us lefties kinda fall into, that if someone was just educated enough or knew enough or could see the facts, the person would change their mind.

The thing is, this was all about trying to get back at the left and minorities. "Fuck you I don't like the changing world I want my pretend 50s universe with no blacks and gays"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you think they are being fooled? If anything I think one of the appeal of Trump is the fact that he owns his corruption and shadiness.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (5 children)

this election was lost by single issue voters not showing up.

Some of it is...understandable, albeit self-sabotaging (Gaza, for example,) others are on about abortion or the economy or immigration, taxes.

What they don't see is that there's so many issues a proper government needs to balance; and being a single-issue-voter is exactly what lets this happen. The sad truth is gaza is gonna get royally fucked now. Abortion is gonna get banned and women are gonna die; the economy is going to get wrecked so the oligarchs get to buy up all the cheap shit they want, immigrants are gonna get blamed for all of it; including the taxes because the oligarchs are too busy fucking us to pay their own damn taxes.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

this election was lost by single issue voters not showing up.

Absolutely. Look at the vote totals; not all votes are in, but Trump is actually running a few million behind his 2020 total, while Harris is 15M+ behind what Biden pulled in. Trump doesn't seem to have much more support than last time, but about 1 out of 7 voters that Biden earned did not vote this time.

The ones who did it over Gaza should prepare to be heartbroken when they see what Bibi and Trump do there next year.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I know is

Gaza is fucked.

Ukraine is fucked.

Black people are fucked.

Women are fucked.

LGBT+ people are fucked.

Everybody's health care is fucked.

WMass deportation ruining families and affecting the economy.

But hey, at least Elon Musk is happy right?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you left out consumer protections, labor laws, overtime, PTO, regulatory oversight, whistleblower protections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom, the ACLU, the ALA, and everything else you thought was safe

i would say delete all your social media, but it's not going to matter

[–] [email protected] 40 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You left out literally everyone on the planet being fucked over by climate change.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Also, rolling back the little the US did to combat climate change, making sure the climate catastrophe will only accelerate in this century.

By the end of the century, the US being a fascist state might not even matter because civilisation as we know it will break down anway, with worldwide temperature rising as far as 5 degrees above preindustrial standards (that's the worst case scenario of the IPCC).

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Not fear, racism and fascism. Everyone who voted Trump is a piece of shit in my eyes, they all heard what he said and decided it was ok. He doesn't think I'm a human being and anyone who voted for him is the same as far as I'm concerned

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I hope each of them dies of kidney stones

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Dems punched left instead of right... Enabled a genocide and lost the support of their base.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago

Surprise.... genocide is going to continue even faster and more so now that trump is in power. All the voters who sat out because of gaza are fucking idiots and will now get to see gaza completely destroyed and helped by the US even more with trump....and they get to watch Ukrainians die as well...and probably Taiwan.

So good job dipshits.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't call it fear. It's hate. Plain and simple hate.

They hate minorities.

They hate women.

They hate lgbt+.

They hate anyone that's "not like them".

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they also hate themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 21 hours ago

It happened because people are dumb. They think he’s bringing 2016-2020 prices with him. He’s not. There was dumb in the Harris campaign approach too, but that would add too much for one post. I voted for her, but even so.

And remember what’s on the slash list: social security and Medicare. How many of you 45+ people have a retirement? Anything you start now won’t be enough without the benefit of social security. Which you should get because you’ve been buying into it your entire work life.

And remember Elon? The guy said well have to learn to tighten our belts for a while. Endure some hardship. Like we haven’t been doing that already. I wonder if unions will be federally legal after he’s done.

Preexisting conditions anyone? You’re well and truly fucked.

Small business? Well. That’s not happening.

Wanna buy a house? Yea that’s still not happening either.

Rent going down? Again. No.

The list goes on.

My partner last night before he went to bed in a Benadryl induced sleep: I’m going to be spending more time in the woods if he wins. No you’re not. You’re going to be working 60hrs a week to keep up and so am I.

Which will probably be the point of the Elon Musk / Trump economy.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It happened because the DNC is detached from the concerns of Americans. They're certainly better than the alternative but they have become extremely complacent.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think its half that. The Dems need a reckoning.

But the other half is that they don't play dirty like Trump. They don't understand that engagement is all that matters, lying does not, because us Americans have the critical thinking ability of an ant.

If they want to win, they need their own reality distortion field.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Dems got a reckoning in 2016 when their career politician Hillary Clinton lost to Trump.

Nothing is going to shake them out of their ways.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Voter: Why does the economy suck so bad?

MAGA: Because brown people.

Harris: You're crazy, the economy is doing better than ever!

Simple as.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The title is so tone deaf that made me not wanna read the rest of the article.

Kamala didn’t represent hope. She represented the “nothing will fundamentally change” stance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Honestly, I think anybody who saw no hope in Harris wasn't paying attention, just validating their own hopelessness in a vacuum.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Even worse, it appears that Republicans have also managed to win majorities in the Senate and House. While thin, those majorities are enough that we can expect some of the Republican priorities to start getting passed. My major question for the first six months of 2025 will be, does the filibuster survive? I know many folks on the left wanted to kill it, when Republican Senators were using it to obstruct anything more progressive than not kicking puppies. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, will the left suddenly fall back in love with the filibuster? I suspect so. I also suspect that the MAGA wing of the GOP is going to be keen to kill the filibuster the first time it gets in the way of their project. And I wonder where the less dickish members of the GOP will come down on the issue.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

They will kill the filibuster because they don't foresee Dems ever holding power again for some reason. I wonder what that reason could be...

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

It is simple. The economy and the media.

Call it selfish, but most people are more concerned with their own well being and that of their families than anything external. They don't see Gaza, climate change, or abortion in the grocery store, they see prices that are massively higher than they were during Trump. You can try to explain how economics works, how tarrifs are a bad idea, how inflation is actually down, but to many that's just noise and why should they trust these economists over anyone else. Their lived experience is that, excluding covid, life was more affordable under Trump.

Take a look at the most popular cable channels and you see Fox news. Look at podcasts and there is Joe Rogan. Social media is arguably better, but X and Facebook are still big and skew right, plus the others are ripe for disinformation campaigns and bots. A large number of Americans regularly consume a diet of right wing propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The decision to seek re-election by President Biden’s inflated sense of self-importance cost us.

It would have been prudent for him to adhere to his previous commitment and serve a single term, allowing the Democratic Party to conduct its primaries without undue interference. The Harris campaign’s very late entry into the race was premature and potentially detrimental to the party’s chances of success.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

The Harris campaign turned out great initially.

They fucked it up immediately by saying they weren't going to be any different from Biden on Gaza and that was one of the wedge topics that had been created about Biden.

Rather than compromise with the electorate to get people out to vote, they tried to use Trump to bully voters out of the house saying he'd be worse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They fucked it up immediately by saying they weren't going to be any different from Gaza on Biden and that was one of the wedge topics that had been created about Biden.

I don't think Gaza specifically was decisive here. It could've been with a thinner majority, but Harris lost before Michigan finished counting and Trump is collecting swing states like MTG cards. The way I see it, this isn't the result of one unpopular policy, but rather a wider campaign failure that destroyed Democrat voter enthusiasm.

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