Bertuccio

In 2020
Biden: 81.2 million
Trump: 74.2 million

In 2024 so far
Harris: 67.0
Trump: 71.9

Trump got about the same amount of votes. Dems lost 14 million votes.

They didn't lead to the apathy - they pointed out the existing apathy would cost Dems the election. It's like saying the person who said you need to wear a seatbelt caused the wreck.

You're exactly right about people being excited for Trump and lukewarm on Harris, but that's entirely on the Democrats for picking the platform and strategy that lost to Trump in 2016.

Harris had a notable and surprising lead when they announced Biden was out - then they changed nothing else. People didn't just not like the candidate, they didn't like the policies. They only changed the candidate and thought Trump was a big enough cudgel to bully people into voting even though that demonstrably doesn't work.

Yeah. I think it was the biggest issue and was easily solvable, but the campaign was a fuck up through and through.

Across Biden and Harris they kept trying to steal a sliver of the conservative vote instead of just taking from the huge infrequent voter slice. They didn't do anything to try to get that slice to vote for them, they just threatened them with Trump if they didn't get out to vote.

Trump didn't get any more votes than last time.

He won because the Democrats lost.

The Harris campaign turned out great initially.

They fucked it up immediately by saying they weren't going to be any different from Biden on Gaza and that was one of the wedge topics that had been created about Biden.

Rather than compromise with the electorate to get people out to vote, they tried to use Trump to bully voters out of the house saying he'd be worse.

It's not even close to half. Republicans are a quarter to a third of the country.

It's voter suppression and Democrats being the biggest possible fuckups they could be at every fucking opportunity.

Must have dropped out of strawman school...

I don't particularly mind the culinary fruit/vegetable definition, but feel like sweet fruits/savory fruits/vegetables would have been clearer.

You're definitely on the right track.

The only actual job of the police is to file crime reports.

They do not prevent crime. Protect innocents. Make people show up for court etc. They have no obligation to stop a crime in progress or protect someone being hurt, even if they're standing right there and could stop it.

Anything in the justice system that you value is either done by someone else, or actually isn't done at all.

Tell that to Volkswagen, BMW, Messerschmitt, Audi, Deutsche Bank.... And all these guys: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust

This is a good example of keeping your mind so open your brain falls out.

No. The article doesn't explicitly say what party he planned to vote for. That's right.

Almost all instances of election violence have been committed by the same party - even the attempted assassinations. I'm sure there could be examples of violence from the other party but I'm genuinely struggling to think of any.

So if a reasonable person hears someone in an election line was violent they're not going to think "well there are crazies on both sides, so yaneverknow."

I was going to put that in the list but felt it was long enough already, but it does fill the fruit dumpling gap.