NoneOfUrBusiness

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I mean Obama's term had like a third of the great recession and the brunt of its effects. According to Wikipedia,

While the recession technically lasted from December 2007 – June 2009 (the nominal GDP trough), many important economic variables did not regain pre-recession (November or Q4 2007) levels until 2011–2016. For example, real GDP fell $650 billion (4.3%) and did not recover its $15 trillion pre-recession level until Q3 2011.[95] Household net worth, which reflects the value of both stock markets and housing prices, fell $11.5 trillion (17.3%) and did not regain its pre-recession level of $66.4 trillion until Q3 2012.

It's a miracle he even kept the presidency in these conditions. See also: Biden's unpopularity even though he was by all means a generally decent (if genocidal) president.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean that's basically what Obama did. It's what Trump does. If you promise 100% and only give 30% you'll be remembered as a good or good ish president. 60%+ and you're the greatest president of all time. But when you promise -10% you're just not gonna win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Well let's hope so so they can collapse and a real leftist (or even just sane) party can rise from the ashes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Well Biden for example could've done a much better job actually persecuting him for his crimes. He can do that as the head of the Executive branch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

That's bot the middle we're talking about. Trump ran on right policy (and "policy) both elections and won.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What actually happens is that every time the Dems rely on the left they lose.

Obama says what the fuck are you—oh it's that guy again. Just do your thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Okay you blamed them. What next?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

When I do I get nonsense about hope and change and how leftists didn't show up when they should have to prevent fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There is no way to read or infer that from their comment without some serious preconceived notions. That person made a statement of fact. They did not say anything about their opinion on the goodness or badness of that statement of fact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking the DNC will ever push another Gore. If they were willing to do that we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

As someone who has also come to this conclusion more than once, it's nice to see I'm not insane (or at least not insane alone). It's frankly ridiculous how many Dem voters support the madness their party has insisted on for at least eight years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter; she's still getting imprisoned for exercising her right to free speech.

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