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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 2 months ago (5 children)

We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don't really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why aren't we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

That's not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn't that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

There's also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

Ideally, we wouldn't buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn't even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues...

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But much better to use aluminium.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (7 children)

At least aluminum actually is recyclable.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.

And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Skill issue. You could always penetrate the tiny hole with your canines if you were adamant enough

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That was the worst. I loved it.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.

Personally I don't care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.

Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It's somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored "juice" concentrate and a "fruit flavored" drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit "OMG the sky must be falling for you" condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn't give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling "Avocado Toast!" at you when you're enjoying a nice brunch. It's just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's quite literally a bit of orange juice, filled up with water and loaded with sugar.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also includes flavoring (of which the orange juice is one). They come in more flavors than just orange.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Plastic bottles in general should be illegal. It's cans, glass bottles, or GTFO when it comes to beverages for me.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FYI cans have a plastic liner to prevent acidic foods from dissolving the aluminium, so there's still some plastic in it (much less then fully plastic bottles tho)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Ah, but without plastic bottles how would we generate additional profits from the excess waste of oil production?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Glass has the best taste too, because it is almost totally chemically inert, you don't get the odd flavor changes that you do with aluminum cans or plastic bottles.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Good, the packages can't even be recycled. Corporations should be held liable for their plastic waste contributions via the packaging.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (9 children)

You think the bottles are going to be any better? They're going to end up in the ocean with all of the other plastic bottles from other drinks.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn't see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I'm sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is that why some brands made the back of the pouch transparent?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I would assume so. I would also think a lot of people just aren't comfortable consuming something that they can't see.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (14 children)

I have always, for the entirety of their existence, hated those dumb pouches. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (10 children)

They made a really loud noise in the lunchroom if you inflated the pouch all the way, folded over the straw to seal it, then stomped on it really hard with your shoe. This was before mentally deranged people started shooting up schools though, so maybe don't try it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In the United States, Kraft and its former parent company, the tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris Cos. (now Altria), have successfully marketed Capri Sun using strategies developed for selling cigarettes to children.[2] American parents often misidentify Capri Sun as healthy, and it is one of the most favorably rated brands among Generation Z Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capri-Sun

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Right? But this only applies to Capri Sun. If it were Hi-C, you’d demand a juice box.

Also, the people who are currently in their childhood absolutely do not care. It’s just us 40+ curmudgeons that must drink Capri Sun from a pouch, Hi-C from a tiny box, and Sunny D straight from that wonky-shaped jug that won’t fit in the fridge door.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I dunno.. Anytime my kids see these pouches at a store, they beg us for them. We've never bought them at home either. I think kids just like the novelty of drinking out of a bag.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

shit rots your teeth anyway

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69zaM1ImvUE

The least they could do is shift to metal cans ffs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The article doesn't actually say they are phasing out pouches, just that they are introducing bottles.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't care about the nostalgia, but they are going to stop being easy to squeeze into a lunchbox now, so I'll find a different brand.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

They need to go the other way. More drinks in pouches. Cocktails for adults.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Now this is a controversial thread

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pesca makes it sound like fish juice

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