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Apple Vision Pro Owners Are Struggling to Figure Out What They Just Bought::Is the Vision Pro for watching movies? Working? Being alone? Collaborating? Nobody knows, really, writes John Herrman.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (2 children)

VR has been a thing for years now and has been getting cheaper over time. I’ve had no interest in using it whatsoever. Clearly the thing that needed to change was for it to get MORE expensive. Thanks Apple! Always giving the customer what they didn’t know they wanted!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I had a go on a VR helmet and thought it was kind of fun, but at the moment the options seem to be an affordable one that's infested with Facebook nonsense, or the Valve/Apple ones which are presumably less intrusive but cost a fortune. So I'm fine to just do without until someone figures out how to do it in a cheap, open-source kind of way, like the raspberry pi of VR helmets.

That might not even be possible, but in that case I'm also fine to just do without TBH.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been following Relativty for a bit now. It might be up your alley.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Hmm, I have a soldering iron and a 3D printer. You might be right. Thanks for the link!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Im really not impressed with the whole concept. Yeah it’s probably a necessary step towards an actually simulated reality but wearing a clunky headgear while running into my living room walls is just not appealing at all to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It strikes me as a mostly non-technical problem. As a method of interfacing with computers/games it just doesn’t offer anything that useful and runs into a lot of practical problems that won’t magically get better with faster processors or smarter software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I like it for stationary games, such as flight and racing sims, or rhythm games like beat saber. The ones where you do a bit of walking around tend to result in finding walls and furniture too quickly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I need the tech to get way further before I seriously consider it. Give me proper AR in glasses that aren't significantly larger than the ones on my face right now and I'll be listening intently.

On the VR front I still also haven't found productive uses, I just don't need it for work and while I did think some of the games were fun not enough to justify getting one when I can already game on Xbox or PC...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

HTC Vive and Bigscreen Beyond say hello.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair to Apple, the AVP is first of it's kind. Literally nothing else functions the same way it does. But based on its naming, you can bet a lower priced version is already on its way. For regular consumers, that's the one you should get, not this, especially when 3rd party apps are still being developed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Literally nothing else functions the same way it does.

Nothing is as shitty as apple did is big understatement

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

There are plenty of things to not like about Apple, but this ain't it, dude.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

I'm struggling to figure it out and I didn't have to spend $3,500... :)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Imagine thinking you need to be more online, not less.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Google glass seemed to me like it could have been the one to stick. Less wonky, but the whole camera thing I guess freaked people out?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I bet if they re-released it with better hardware, no one would bat an eye compared to the initial release. Hell I would go as far as to say people would buy it just to have Bard AI integrated into it. Because people are people and people buy things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At this point they could probably make it look enough like regular glasses that most people wouldn't even notice someone wearing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Based on this article, being noticed is kind of the point?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

For people buying this, yes. For people interested in an unobtrusive Google glass style option, I think not so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

They have and it didn’t have the same fanfare that Google glass got, granted, not entirely the same concept, but the camera was the issue.

Edit forgot link

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ehh, sort of. There was a lot more to glass than just being a camera for livestreaming.

I remember a lot of talk about "gl-assholes" and how dumb people wearing it looked. But if those Wayfarers had an AR display inside, no one would ever know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasnt it right after snowdens bombshell or am i getting my dates mixed up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I don’t remember

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a Steve Jobs interview where they asked what the iPad is for right after its release, and he did that Steve Jobs smirk and kind of said, "I don't know, we'll just wait and see how people use these"?

I feel like it's a similar approach here. The iPad certainly didn't displace all laptops, but I think it's considered to be a success.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I think a key difference is that Apple had a very clear target demographic for the iPad in mind (lightweight laptop / heavy phone users), and then were prepared to see how it evolved on top of that premise.

With the Vision Pro, they haven't been able to articulate their target userbase at all, and are pretty much relying on the early adopters to help define it for them.

Which isn't to say it can't find its place and be successful. But I don't think it's anything like Apple's other product releases at all...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you can't use it for porn, why bother.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Except you can… it’s a computer. It has a web browser and can play any file… that whole uproar was just about certain formats of VR porn not being supported. Which you can install by side loading.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Porn, stop beating off around the bush.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Well... That's the whole point of porn, innit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

So then why did they buy it? Consumers are crazy dumb.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

can it even be used as a pc headset?
if no, than it's a complete waste of money, especially with it's piss poor fov and refresh rate

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I mean you can say whatever you want I can't believe that thing can run a video editor with 4k+ footage.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

First thing I'd do is put two half ping pong balls over my eyes to mess with eye display feature, then I'd get rid.. Not like I can play dcs with it anyway