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This will just confirm to the MAGGAots that they're doing the right thing,.if the orthodox liberal elite are agaist it theyre in the rigth track as far as they are. .concerned.
And if it all goes to shit they'll come up with conspiracy theories to help them avoid facing the reality of having made a mistake.
The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.
All is going according to plan.
That plan assumes an eventual recovery... That is looking less and less likely or feasible
The eventual recovery is part of the plan, but you won’t be the one recovering.
Are they inmortal? Ir doing it for their great grandkids?
Almost everything Mr. Trump said this week—on history, economics and the technicalities of trade—was utterly deluded. His reading of history is upside down. He has long glorified the high-tariff, low-income-tax era of the late-19th century. In fact, the best scholarship shows that tariffs impeded the economy back then. He has now added the bizarre claim that lifting tariffs caused the Depression of the 1930s and that the Smoot-Hawley tariffs were too late to rescue the situation. The reality is that tariffs made the Depression much worse, just as they will harm all economies today. It was the painstaking rounds of trade talks in the subsequent 80 years that lowered tariffs and helped increase prosperity.
On economics Mr. Trump’s assertions are flat-out nonsense. The president says tariffs are needed to close America’s trade deficit, which he sees as a transfer of wealth to foreigners. Yet as any of the president’s economists could have told him, this overall deficit arises because Americans choose to save less than their country invests—and, crucially, this long-running reality has not stopped its economy from outpacing the rest of the G7 for over three decades. There is no reason why his extra tariffs should eliminate the deficit. Insisting on balanced trade with every trading partner individually is bonkers—like suggesting that Texas would be richer if it insisted on balanced trade with each of the other 49 states, or asking a company to ensure that each of its suppliers is also a customer.
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Money is fungible so that we don't need perfectly balanced trade. It's a feature.
It's a shame Trump supporters won't consume anything that doesn't feed their confirmation bias.
To be fair, the economist is shit.
They cheer welfare cuts that are projected to put tens of thousands of children into poverty and complain about tiny tax increases on the rich.
The economist is the magazine of the upper class. They may be neo-liberal instead of straight up facist, but they are morally bankrupt.
It's why I canceled. They have good news reporting but they personally view countries (notably the USA) as nothing but an economic engine. They don't honestly care about the lives of the people who live there. Kind of like how they think the USA needs to cut "red tape" with DOGE but can't specify what or precisely why. But it's crickets on usable healthcare..
Same. I used to be an avid reader as a young adult but I couldn’t bear them anymore with how little they care about people. It’s all money money money, not people.
That's a good point, I really can't argue.
I dunno pretty sure they consume groceries
They've been told to stop talking about grocery prices.
For now
The Economist: [Endlessly promotes fascism]
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The Economist: What's with this fascism!??!?!
They haven't encouraged this, they've been pretty critical of trump.
They're openly capitalist and liberal.
Scratch a neoliberal...
In all seriousness, capitalism is exactly why we're here right now. (That said, technocrit is an idiot with some of the dumbest takes on this site. They blanket basically everything as fascist/fascism-adjacent, and I'm not going to say The Economist promoted this, because they didn't.)
Like it or not, in the US the liberals were the primary opposition to fascists.
Conservative and Russian created propoganda managed to convince a lot of leftists that it was more important to fight liberals than fascists.
Like it or not, in the US the liberals were the primary opposition to fascists.
And they were ineffectual opposition that did more to help fascism than hurt it.
Ineffectual, yes. As for helping fascism, the ones who helped were the ones too busy fighting liberals to fights the fascists.
Being ineffectual is helping the fascists; that's the whole goddamn problem here. When you're fighting fascists the battlefield isn't the polls; it's the hearts and minds of disillusioned workers, and liberals are too weak to win that battle against fascism no matter how much you try to unite behind them.
Leftists are also too weak and ineffectual to win that battle. Leftists are orders of magnitude weaker than liberals in the US.
If anything, leftists are busier driving the horizontal hostility that poisons worker solidarity and benefits fascists.
Leftists' weakness in modern America is a matter of numbers and organization; it's a situational weakness. In contrast, liberals' weakness to fascism is a categorical weakness. No matter what you do, liberals are categorically incapable of beating fascism. Therefore pushing for unity behind liberals is a fool's errand, as this election has shown.
If anything, leftists are busier driving the horizontal hostility that poisons worker solidarity and benefits fascists.
Horizonal hostility between who and who? Hatred of the Democratic elites is nothing ~~but~~ horizontal I'll tell you that.
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Leftists’ weakness in modern America is a matter of numbers and organization; it’s a situational weakness. In contrast, liberals’ weakness to fascism is a categorical weakness.
This is just, "liberals need to take accountability, leftists don't need to take accountability".
Leftists not being able to beat fascists is a matter of leftists not being able to hold accountability for anything.
You like fighting liberals because liberals are nice and there's no stakes. You like that liberals don't have teeth, liberals play by the rules, liberals won't hurt you. You're afraid of fighting fascists, because fascists don't believe in rules and will illegally disappear you without hesitation.
You hide from the bear to fight the bunny, then you whine that the bunny isn't winning against the bear for you.
Sigh fucking BlueMAGA. When Trump destroys all US democracy, don't say you weren't warned.
I'm not even a liberal, and I was the one saying that Trump was the worse option.
Leftists were the ones saying, "you're a hysterical bluemaga shitlib, you think every election is the end of democracy. Project 2025 is just corporate media hyperbole. Lesser of two evils isn't valid, your hands are red for blood for supporting Killer Kamala you baby genocider. At least my hands are clean, I didn't vote for a cop. Actually it would be good if Trump wins because at least liberal media will start criticizing Trump for the genocide in Gaza, unlike Genocide Joe".
It's an absolute joke you want to pretend like you were the one warning people about Trump.
Did your back hurt picking so many cherries and building so many strawmen? Because I also distinctly remember leftists saying "at this rate Biden (later Harris) is going to fucking lose and we'll all regret it", which... uh... yeah. I'm not going to engage further because I don't have a horse in this race and I can feel my braincells dying by the second, but goddamn have you tried reflecting on why you lost for once?
Edit: I returned to the start of the thread and in the first goddamn place what the hell do leftists have to do with this conversation? You brought them up only to soliloquy about those damn leftists who practiced wrongthink. Why is your reaction for people pointing out your approach was flawed to say "no u"?
I don’t think you know what fascism is? Liberal, capitalist, sure, pro Trump? Definitely not, pro fascism? definitely not…. That’s even true for the very woolly definition of fascism as most people use it today
If it's not Mao-era China, it's fascist.
A good example of why "literally fascism!!!" Didn't get people to the polls last year.
“LiBz!11”
They're not pro-Trump, but the base of inequality, arrogance and hate necessary for fascism to take hold was co-produced by the Democrats. You support that and you're pro-fascism whether you like it or not.
Hang on, more of an unnecessary economic error than Liz Truss?! That's impressive "hold my beer" territory
He’s the most incompetent, demented rapist to hold the office. Many people are saying it. People are calling him Mr. Brexit. Bigly.
Here's the list - Who can find The Country Not On The List!
*timer theme*
I didn't look, but it's Russia, isn't it?
ding!
*studio applause*
I hate that I'm right
Eh, me too. But you get a copy of the home game!
It’s almost like he doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing. Almost like someone is telling him what to do. Someone who greatly benefits from this sort of chaos on our former allies.
If only they had left a clue, like being passed over for the tariffs. Who could it be?
Getting closer...
Error makes it sound like an honest mistake instead of an intentional, economic attack on the nation. Sure, Trump will probably sue for such language but on what grounds? The US government is not a business so how could it be slandered or libeled?
The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.
All is going according to plan.
A real shame he wasn’t aborted.