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In a now-deleted post on Telegram, a hacking group called Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility for the attack.

Do you think it really was a group in Ukraine, or do you reckon that's bullshit?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The more I read about him the more I think he has no clue about tech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

If you've ever heard him speak about your field of expertise then you'll know that he is 100% full of shit and bluffs his way through conversations.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

Nevermind the group who took credit, he's trying to drum up excuses to shut off Starlink in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Using basically any VPN that allows server selection or tor would allow anyone to look like their IP was from Ukraine.

Hi guys, I'm from Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago

Article says it’s a DoS but probably means DDoS because nobody does just a vanilla DoS anymore (they’re easy to block). No VPN is going to let you use their service to do a DDoS, setting aside the technical and logistical problems for attempting it, it doesn’t really do anything useful for a DDoS.

DDoS attacks aren’t possible to IP trace, they come from a wide range of compromised devices forming a bot net that runs on IP blocks spanning multiple different areas all over the world, making them impossible to distinguish from legitimate traffic. The only way to catch who is responsible for a DDoS is to find the botnet’s control surface (usually something like an IRC channel) and gain access to it yourself. Not likely unless you find the malware that created the bot net and pull it apart looking for a reference to the control system.

TL;DR: Elon musk is full of shit there’s no fucking way he knows where this attack originated from based on IP addresses because it probably didn’t use one easily blockable and identifiable IP range.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

That’s exactly what someone who was from Ukraine trying to look like they were from Ukraine would say.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I'd say he is making up a reason to turn off Starlink for Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 19 hours ago

Poland was paying for it and they openly said Musk actions mean they need to find a replacement

He's going to "shut it off" when they cancel the contract.

Full on:

You can't fire me, I quit!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Deorbit or seize the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 71 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

The first "D" in "DDOS" stands for "distributed", i.e. it's coming from many places at once. Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He's a propagandist piece of hairy shit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Actually not that hairy, you see the shirtless pic? He’s quite smooth, like a beluga whale.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

This. And distribution is not even an option: such servers block IP addresses that send suspicious amounts of data anyways so the DDoS request must be distributed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

Fairly certain that there is enough evidence to support that he is both.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Distributed just means "multiple sources" not "multiple countries".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Correct - but having seen them in action, well planned ones are executed from multiple countries at once so they can't just be geoip blocked.

My money is on Elon not understanding how it works, lying, or both. Much more history of that happening than the other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

I agree, to me this feels like a red herring

[–] [email protected] 98 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Anonymous already claimed responsibility and I doubt they'd use multiple addresses from Ukraine, if any, honestly. He's blaming them to further convince right-wingers that Ukraine=bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

these people aren't right wingers anymore. they arent conservative.

its fascists, collaborators, and traitors, who've convinced people they are conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Conservative means to keep the status quo. We have only had a few years without defacto apartheid in this country and that is the status quo that they are trying to go back to. These people are absolutely right wing conservatives and please don’t let them fool you into thinking that there is a difference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Status quo is subjective.

My idea of conservative status quo goes back to the 2000s and early 2010s. What's been happening since 2014 or so, is a clear slide away from that and it's something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Elected officials saying the quiet part out loud is the only thing that has changed in right wing politics since the 2000s. This has been the status quo since the 80s at least.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago

And to back this up they registered a domain for their "Operation Dreadnaught" on Feb 2. So it does show some premeditation instead of opportunistic attribution.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

at this point, why believe someone who can't differentiate 8 billion from 8 million?

reading numbers is not his strong suit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

You see, Elon has so much money, that he never sees his wealth in the full format because it the number would be so fucking long, so it's always abbreviated like 8,000,000K

Easy mistake, you're just not rich enough!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't believe a word out of this known liars mouth without evidence. It makes little sense for Ukraine to bite the hand that feeds them, so to say. It could very easily be Russia trying to frame them. Evidence is necessary!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How would one find evidence if the user utilized a VPN?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You don't DDOS through a VPN. The first D is for distributed, you do it from a multitude of devices, often hacked ones from a botnet. So DDOS attribution is hard. And if you want some scale you reflect the attack on some other machine that runs a service that allow for amplification, making attribution even harder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

What would be hilarious is if they used starlink to ddos twitter, and that's why it looks like Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago

It could also be China. It could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

“It’s what anyone else would do.”

[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

Wouldn’t it make sense if it was a Russian group posing as being in Ukraine, to further divide the US and Russia? I mean the Russian ministry of truth is already hammering hard at that bond. How stupid can one be not to see that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It would make more sense than that Ukrainians did it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah. Russia has been running circles around America in the information war. In Clarissa ward’s on all fronts, she talks about investigating Russian troll farms in Uganda that specifically targeted African Americans and stoked things like the BLM movement, etc. there is a reason why America is so divided. It’s why Europeans have started shutting off these things during elections, etc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Why do you write nah, and then come with an example that confirms how Russians do this routinely?

Is there something ambiguous about my comment? That state it makes more sense that it's the Russians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Probably skimmed fast and missed the "than". Probably.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's the "than that" is a little more complex of a construction that can be read over, and possibly missed. The sentence can be read with either of those missing, but if the "than" is missed it completely changes the meaning.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Nothing brings dumb people together like a common enemy. It is Zelenskyy, someone told me. He had tears in his eyes and I heard it from his uncle's cousin wife.

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