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[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

One of the things that has continuously confounded me about Musk's veneration by the modern American fascist is that one of the main accomplishments they hail him as a genius for are "his" advancements in electric cars.

Which are necessitated by Global Warming.

Which they do not believe in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well not nobody. Turns out there are some Nazis. /s

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We all know what’s going to happen, Elon just going to get a “government contract”, where he can make it so that teslas will be the main vehicle manufacturer for government.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck. What if Elon is just gonna start making weapons? Didn't he flaunt a flamethrower for his lame company years ago?

Boring*

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I hope so. Any one who signs up for trump's military deserves to burst into flames

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Bs. The Chinese in Richmond BC don’t give a af about whiny white leftist problems.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I would like a Chinese EV, but the capitalists are enforcing protectionism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would too, but you have to understand why the USA is blocking these cars from coming in. The cost of these cheap EVs are not based off of supply and demand. Its not even this cheap because of effectiveness or efficiencies. Its from the CCP subsidies. The CCP wants to dump on the competition in efforts to kill off anyone making a car, then start jacking up the price after they have market share.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

My dude the US subsidizes the shit out of its electric car industry. When someone brings up "supply and demand" and just tries to pretend that the economy is exactly what they learned in their econ101 class.

They are doing the tarrifs on Chinese EVS because (1) they can't compete on price and (2) the Chinese EVS are just a superior product.

You're right on China though. They are just doing exactly what the US has done for decades. It's just that the US doesn't like having to actually compete with another country. So instead of actually making better and cheaper cars they instead just decide to tell the American people "nah, looks like you're just being a shit Tesla"

The US loves to say "free market" but notice how they don't allow a free market to force their industry to actually innovate and compete.

China is not "cheating" by subsidizing it's industry. That's literally just standard shit every government does. Thats just an excuse. America is subsidizing it's EVs too. They just have worse EVs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Trump is all about removing regulations and stated "for every new regulation, 10 must be revoked." During his first term it was 2. He is moving the market that way, and boy oh boy is it going to suck for the consumer and small companies that want to compete.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

That's only half the truth though. The main reason why they're so cheap is because they manufacture everything in the supply chain themselves. Everything. They have their own mines for their resources, they make their own batteries (which they've been doing for ages), they make their own electronics, they make their own software etc. They also have a completely different mindset. For them they are rolling electrical devices with some software. They don't need the knowhow of the traditional car manufacturers. And then they bought the Audi designer along with his entire team to make the cars look good.

Edit: I'm talking about BYD. The rest is pretty much irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes, there are efficiencies since all the tech is pretty close, but that pales in comparison to the sheer dollars injected into the industries. 231 billion dollars. Compare that to the 2nd closest investment into a car manufacturer which is the USA at 30 billion.

Each one of these new 500+ car manufacturers produced cars at a loss. Not because efficiencies. Because of subsidies. In some cases, not even sold at all. https://youtu.be/vplPmxVRcnk

Here in Taiwan, we get unfiltered China news.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm also pretty sure their security / safety standards are pure ass. I barely trust our automakers, I sure as shit don't trust the fucking CCP

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (12 children)

its not the death of the electric car. Its the death of a bad one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

All cars are bad. Combustion or not.

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