this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
44 points (77.5% liked)

Ask Lemmy

28053 readers
1247 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Just curious if anyone has experienced this and is this common for communities in the .ml domain?

I mean it's awfully pathetic.

Edit: Well, thanks for answering my question, especially the guy from .ml. Good to know what the behavior in general is over there.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Funny to see this come around every month or so when a new group of people come in and think "hey this is an interesting sub, let me joint this discussion!" and then come the questions.

In summary: don't go to hexbear, lemmygrad, and the .ml instances, they are silly places

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I've actually been using lemmy for a while, I guess I've just been lucky enough to have never comment in one of these in all that time. But live and learn and good to know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just happened to me today (not for the first time) when I questioned somebody's idiotic meme with a post that just said "What is this slop?" which was apparently worthy of removal. Even mild criticism is not ok with them because their bubble is very, very thin.

It's fine, whenever it happens it reminds me to block the community and the author. I recommend you do something similar to make Lemmy a nicer place to be.

I know better than to engage with those... people. But sometimes I don't notice the domain on the community I'm reading from the All feed. Wish there was a way to just hide everything from those instances on my feed (without standing up my own instance).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Voyager provides the ability to block whole instances. Is that not default Lemmy functionality? I've been using the Voyager WPA since it was wefwef, so sometimes I forget what's native and what isn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Good question, maybe it's possible these days. I know it wasn't when I first joined. I'll do some digging!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

That is normal .ml behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Defederate? 👉👈🥺 (Jokus)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If there were a strong call for it from the userbase...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It would be interesting to see. Most of the tech ml communities have an alternative nowadays ([email protected] , [email protected] , etc.)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

You have been site-banned from .ml

Seriously though, if .world defed'd from them that would be so nice. .ml gets awfully mad about it when you bring it up though, almost like they're afraid of missing out on all the .world content despite calling .world all manner of fronts and propaganda outlets lol

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

At .ml? Oh boy. Did you say that Russia and China aren't communist utopias?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Shit, I guess I really should avoid .ml then considering my own background on China.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (21 children)

I made the bannable error apparently by making my first post there stating that Arab Americans for Trump, sorry for Peace, did shoulder some blame for the 2024 election, provided some stats showing that their efforts likely affect Michigan and that they would have to live with the consequences of their decisions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

.ml is awful, but you'll find a lot of those knee jerk purity types spread all over the lemmyverse.

load more comments (20 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Did you make excuses for genocide OP?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago

If you don't want to be treated the way Stalinists treat dissenters, don't voluntarily put yourself in places where Stalinists set the rules.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

It wouldn't be a Reddit replacement without power tripping mods.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I caught a ban for stating that Linus Torvalds is legally obliged to respect US sanctions against Russia.

This seems like standard behavior for .ml.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How does US have legal authority over open source or a Finn?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

He was born a Finn, but last I checked he is a US citizen and Oregon resident by choice.

In 2004, Torvalds moved with his family from Silicon Valley to Portland, Oregon.

In 2010, Torvalds became a United States citizen and registered to vote in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

US can order Taiwan and NL because they use tech that was licensed by US with that condition. Does GPL have US jurisdiction forbidding contributions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

GPL licensing on Linux has no effect on these sanctions.

Linux is a piece of software, owned by its individual authors and contributors, but published by Linus. Linus makes every decision about what is and is not in Linux.

Here's how the "sanctions" usually work: the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) publishes a list called the Specially Designated Nationals (SDN) List. This list contains named individuals, businesses, and organizations that are not American (foreigners only. US Citizens are not supposed to be on the list). It is illegal for any US citizen or US business to transact business with anyone named on SDN. There are severe civil and criminal penalties for the US person if they're not doing due diligence to check their international contacts against the list.

Now how does this affect Linux? It doesn't affect Linux the project or any of the code. But it does mean that Linus the person can't accept contributions from SDN persons. Linus's lawyers have advised him that that would be a "business transaction" within the terms of the law.

Could Linus go in court make an argument that this sanctions regime violates his first amendment rights? Maybe. But I guarantee that would be a big hassle for him and Linux Foundation lawyers.

Could Linux the project restructure itself so that Linus the American is not making every decision on every contribution? Yes. But that would be a major change in organization.

And the records on the LKML seem to indicate that Linus and Linux leadership are at least politically indifferent to the sanctions in the first place, and possibly mildly supportive. So I doubt they'll go to any major effort to change things up.

Edit: And finally I want to be clear on this point... Nothing is stopping sanctioned SDN entities from downloading a tarball off of kernel.org and making their own sanctions-busting GPL kernel with blackjack and hookers. That all seems perfectly legal to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You literally asked.

How does US have legal authority over open source or a Finn?

My comment was pointing out why he (a Finn) is subject to US law. GPL is GPL, no idea what you're on about there. He is obligated to follow US law.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›