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[–] [email protected] 251 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.

Resist a theocratic state.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"The First Amendment clearly says "Congress shall make no law" and this is an executive order. Seems constitutional to us"

Supreme Court (probably)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck I hate how plausible this is.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

DEI but just for Christians

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

be explicit: white Christians

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

White christian males with money.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today's standards. I'm not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

they don't read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda

  1. the old testament comes from the living documents of the jewish faith maintaining the history of their ancestors and people. the jewish faith is largely an ongoing conversation about what it means to inherit this story and how to resist oppression by enacting boycotts, strikes, and maintaining the cultural heritage of foods. no one thinks everything in it is right and good except for some folks who worship orthodox hegemony beyond all else
  2. the teachings of jesus are primarily about how orthodox hegemony is bad and that the true value of ethics and morality is to help others and strengthen communities where you are
  3. the book of revelations is early christians' attempt to document the events of a genocide enacted by an authoritarian who co-opted the trappings of religion. it's a warning against the types of coagulation of power being enacted by donald trump literally right now. they are the followers of the antichrist they accuse woke folk of being. woke folk are who get raptured into the eternal song of historical memory by remaining true to the teachings that kindness and grace is more important than orthodoxy. the book is all florid and weird because the roman censors didn't recognize it for what it was, so it was able to survive.
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am entirely serious when I say this:

The latest meme/talking point working its way through all the newer, e-celeb type american christian pastors, the ones that are extreme but not quite as bonkers as the qanon, I-am-a-prophet types...

The latest sermon topic is 'the sin of empathy'.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GFOMXXDlBTw

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.

In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.

I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she's unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.

As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don't get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren't. It's not fun and there's no benefit to being persecuted.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago

And by that, they mean something like this? Xtians get all kinds of privileges and everyone else has to convert or be a second class citizen?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

They view their Belief System (BS) being put on the same plane as other mythologies, new or ancient, as somehow being "persecuted", since they are so used to having unwarranted privileges.

They've seen that unwarranted privilege being chipped away, ever so slowly, as xtianity dies off in number of adherents in the United States (dwindling down to 60-some percent, now) - trending toward what more normal advanced countries of the West are like, and they fucking hate it. They want everyone and every part of the culture to have them up on a pedestal again, even if it means violence, and a lot of it, because "Jesus".

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.

I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made

I imagine some of those questions included:

  1. How many christians in the USA were killed in the last 20 years only because they were christian?
  2. When was the last time a gathering of christians in a public library doing things unrelated to being christian forced to cease and desist?
  3. Is it common in society for a young adult living with parents to profess their love for christ and be thrown out of their homes and essentially abandoned by the family?
  4. Is there a history in this country to regularly arrest and prosecute christians for gathering or holding ceremonies like communion?

edit: A couple more additions.

  1. Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?

  2. Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be "deprogrammed" from being christian?

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society

Yeah, Democrats did this already. They're called Hate Crimes and it's the law. Not a measley little EO.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

No no but hate crimes are DEI bad word and also only happen to brown people, who deserve it!!!1!1!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good thing I'm not biased against Christians specifically. Fuck all religions equally - fair and balanced.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Can we get a law in place that says if you have to sue the government to stop some obvious bullshit, that you recover your legal fees?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dementia induced by syphilis

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere. But if this ain’t proof that there’s a genuine desire to install a theocracy in the US, then I don’t know what will convince anyone.

The fact that a President even suggests this is a clear tell that some want the US being Iran but with Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere.

This is incorrect. He can sign it, and Bondi will start bringing these cases to court. One would think that it would immediately stop there as the first judge she argues in front of dismisses the case for being blatantly unconstitutional and having her brought up on sanctions for multiple blatant violations of the defendant's constitutional rights.

But in this court system? I wouldn't be so sure. At the very least, I expect at least some people to get caught up in this dragnet and have their lives upended for years until the Supreme Court finally stops dragging their feet. But given this administration, this Supreme Court, and the number of MAGA judges that Trump can forum shop through, there is a non-zero chance this actually succeeds.

It wouldn't be the first time this administration and SCOTUS hand-waves away constitutional protections.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Keep in mind that they also broke into the Treasury system and own the paychecks of every federal employee. If that's not leverage, I don't know what is

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And this is it. This is the step that makes the US a theocratic dictator.

This is the thing with religion: ANYTHING can be labelled as being against it. Muslims? Anti Christian bias. Atheists? Don't get me started. Gays? Obviously. Scientists? Doh! We do want the results from science, though, like computers, food, clean water, etc, but scientists are evil devil anti Christian.

I want nothing to do with the US anymore

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My dude you forgot women. Women are the prime target of all religion. They'll end no fault divorce, end marital rape, institute child marriage and call it all gods fucking plan to procreate. The right to vote will only belong to male heads of family.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Satanic Temple is going to be very busy. Maybe I should make a donation.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus' teachings, and I'll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I'll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (33 children)

Jesus pretty much was a socialist so where does that leave us?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?

How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Anyone wanna get together, publicly, and burn a huge pile of Bibles?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They're gearing up to roll out project 2025.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago

They're not "gearing up;" it's steamrolling us as we speak.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It ain't gonna be bloodless

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Didn’t Elon Musk and Michael Flynn just post about how they will stop processing payments to a Lutheran organization?

Let’s start there.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It is funny after years of fighting taliban the US now need to deal with neo-taliban at home.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

There’s a reason christofascists are often referred to as “Y’all Queda”.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive order to make our Attorney General, who's a great person — she's going to be a great Attorney General — Pam Bondi the head of a task force, brand new, to eradicate anti-Christian bias," Trump said.

I feel like Trump’s quote here from the article is even worse than the headline suggests.

First is the use of the word eradicate rather than prosecute. It’s a much more dehumanizing tone, as if there a bunch of pests that need to be wiped out.

And second, which is no surprise but is even more worrying, is how much praise he put on Bondi there. That means loyalty to a person rather than to a nation or constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And by "anti-xtian bias" he means, not properly privileging xtianity.

That's what these assholes complaining about xtian "persecution" ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

As a reminder: The guy defending Christianity is a rapist and adulterer who set free 1500 criminals, including pedophiles and child rapists.

If Jesus was real, he would bitch slap Trump so hard it would take the paint off his face!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The courts will strike this down as fast as the birthright citizenship thing. Flagrant violation of the Estate Clause

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hi Canadians!

Want to join our christofascist state where we jail those that don't believe in sky daddy?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

says the fucking antichrist

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How long until living an "anti-Christian" lifestyle is evidence of an anti-Christian bias?

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