LibertyLizard

I mean… maybe. So was she? What did she accomplish between her presidential bids?

Not sure what guns have to do with the ineffectiveness of punching Nazis but OK.

Feel free to punch your way out. You’ll find it equally effective.

I disagree. Fascists want to simplify every conflict this way—“They’re coming to kill you, so we need to kill then first”. By accepting the conflict on those terms, you’ve already conceded a rhetorical battle.

Leftists have rarely excelled at martial conflict. It’s not typically our strength. Our strength instead is that we fundamentally want to help people and make the world more free and just. We win by making sure people understand that. Getting into fist fights with Nazis undermines this strategy and doesn’t do anything to fundamentally undermine their power.

This is a false dichotomy. There are effective ways to defeat Nazis beyond punching them or reasoned debate.

Violence is justified in life or death struggles where other options have become unrealistic. That’s not the situation we’re in in the West 99% of the time. Deplatforming, doxxing, civil resistance, and various other forms of nonviolent struggle all have a better track record than street brawls which have done nothing but empower fascists. In fact, the sense of fear and chaos that these events creates is exactly the environment in which fascism will thrive. Street brawls between fascists and leftists were prominent in the Weimar Republic and did nothing to stop Nazi power—if anything it made it easier for the right to unite and paint leftists as unreasonable extremists. We see similar patterns happening today.

Politics is not the same as armed struggle. We are not engaged in armed struggle against fascism in the west. Perhaps we will be but right now one of our goals should be to avoid that becoming necessary. In the current moment public relations and persuasion matter immensely. Punching Nazis achieves little other than making people lose sight of the dangers of fascism and focus instead on “extremism” from “both sides”.

And OP has done nothing to suggest they are sympathetic to fascism so your threats against them are extremely rude and unjustified.

Edit: I also should have stressed that the most important thing is to organize. People power is the real power. Collaborate with and help everyone, not just your Maoist book club or whatever. One of the ways the Fascists won in the past is by dividing people and going after minorities one at a time. If things do devolve into armed struggle, you’ll be much better prepared if you’ve got deep roots in the community.

Not as bad as the US isn’t saying much. I just looked at an aerial image and there’s still a fair bit of sprawl around the city center.

Car is a lot safer than a tent though. Especially these days when state-sanctioned violence is omnipresent thanks to the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court has already placed strict limits on federal intervention in state elections. So it probably wouldn’t go anywhere although I would support an attempt at least.

What are the bull horns meant to be???

I recently heard a phrase I really like: “Vote with your protest boots on”. Because let’s face it—the Harris campaign will not do the right thing on their own. They need to be pressured until they have no other option. So vote but make sure that’s the least thing you are doing.

Trump will not do the right thing no matter what. It’s just not in his character, and his political coalition won’t allow it anyway. I expect attempts to pressure him will be met with extreme violence.

Weak. To really say you’ve climbed Everest, you need to start from the Challenger Deep.

Yeah Bing Chat had sources for a while (not sure if it still does) and when I checked the sources, the frequently didn't contain the claim in question. So even if you get it to cite real pages, it just doesn't work the same way as human citations do.