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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

So 10€ for a Terrabyte? How? You can't compare mass-discounted stuff, like cloud, which additionally uses your data for tracking etc., to generate more money, with the consumer focused, single-item storage common a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah apparently I just got ripped tf off with the ssd I just bought.

Storage IS cheap these days, but 1c/GB is not true.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

pretty close, though. $99.99 for new 8tb seagate hdd is the lowest/gb i've seen in the last couple years from a major retailer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not true yet but it's not another five years away either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I just checked and 18tb can be had for $170, so we're there already.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://a.co/d/eLUC1DL

.016 cents per gb. It's pretty close, but i can't really find anything lower and reliable.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Refurbished 16TB+ HDDs are around that price range.

If you want a new one its sadly twice as expensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Often has exorbitant shipping + tax to germany, unfortunately, and once you want recertified ones, so more than a month or so of warranty, it's more expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that cloud storage is a rental scheme and not comparable, but an old sata disk here is 240Gb for £24 which is equivalent to 10c per Gig. If you go back to abandoned formats like ide hard disks you may be able to get 0.01 per Gb.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/240gb-wd-green-sata-m2-ssd-m2-2280-sata-iii-6gb-s-slc-nand-read-545mb-s-wd-ssd-dashboard

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This chart is total bullshit on past pricing. Lots of it is wrong. It's especially laughable to think that normal pc owners in 1999 were paying nearly $10,000 for a 20 GB hard drive. Let alone the cost 5 years before that. Lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To corroborate what you're saying, here's a Compusa ad from 1999. The desktops listed are much cheaper than the $450/GB price and come with, a whole computer around that hard drive.

Plus on page 12, there's an 18GB drive for $300, or $16.67/GB.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

lol nobody had 20gb hard drives as “normal PC owners” in 1999. How old are you?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

People very much had 20GB drives that year. Sure, 8GB, 12GB, 13.6GB we’re more common capacities but any mid to high-end system that didn’t have (near enough) 20GB was bad value and drives bigger than that were available.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they existed but only on high-end PCs. 20GB drives didn't become the norm for another two years. I remember; I was there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I replied to a post saying that nobody had a 20GB system. Sure it was more of a mid to high-end thing, but very much far from nobody.

And I was there too, the low end cheapo PC I got that year had 12GB.

https://vintageapple.org/pcworld/pdf/PC_World_9912_December_1999.pdf

And by 2001 that 12GB got an 80GB companion. Sure, 20GB was some low-end baseline maybe, but I had 12+80 by that year and it was in no way unusual.

Edit: and just checked the Wayback Machine for the local computer shop. The cheapest Celerons had 40GB. In 2001.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I said no “normal pc owners”. Normal pc owners don’t have high end systems. I didn’t say “nobody”.

2 years in the late 90s early 2000s was a millennia. You can’t compare 99 to 01 in any manner.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Old enough that the first PC I built had bunches of dip switches you had to flip around so it would know what to do, depending on what you were putting in it. You ever overclock a cpu by 3Mhz before?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I would have killed for 20Gb of space in 1999 on my personal PC. People ran with nowhere near that much space back then.

I was also the administrator of an HP mainframe at that time, and we ran the whole business on about 5Gb, and paid big $$$ for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We had one of these 12gb quantum bigfoots(5.25” drive) in ~1998 or so. Here’s a publication saying it was expected to cost $490 at launch. That’s a far cry from ~$450 per gigabyte.

Edit to add inflation graphic. Doesn’t add up even after accounting for inflation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

In '99 my 8GB disk died, and shortage of stock gave me a 12GB disk as warranty replacement.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe if you're getting refurbished drives, sure. But new drives are still more frequently around 0.02-0.05 per GB.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone should let Apple know

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

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“Tim Cook hears you, Tim Cook don’t care.”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's nice when thing actually go down in price. We need to bring back those days.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~800 roubles per terabyte?! It's cheaper than some used drives! Thanks for resource.

EDIT: MDD seems to be just repackager of used drives.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I love just straight up lying. I wish it was 1¢ per GB. Maybe the most dirt cheap Chinese off-brand that only has 1/2 of its listed capacity usable because it is a refurb labelled as new. 100€ for a 10TB is insane.

Even going higher capacity to get a lower price per GB, 10TB drives are around 300€. That is 0.03€ per GB. 20TB drives are around 525€. (These are just consumer drives too, enterprise is significantly more expensive for the MTBF ratings) Still 0.026€ per GB. Once you get into ultra high capacity, it starts going up again because of tech limitations.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Here you can get 12TB, new, from a trusted German seller, for 129€, which is 1.075 cents per GB.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's lying in the other direction as well. We had a 2GB HDD on our computer in the late 90s that I am very sure did not cost thousands of dollars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I bought a 20TB external hard drive a year ago for 0.015 cents per GB. This was after taxes, so it was technically cheaper.

$301.69/20,000 = 0.0150

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

20y ago $5? No. But also, I’m an apple guy. They fuck you on storage. But I also buy third-party devices so still, no.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

TBF, everyone fucks you on built-in storage, especially soldered SSDs that can't be upgraded, and I'm very much not an Apple guy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah his numbers are definitely off for that era...

Diablo 2 was released 25 years ago and it required 1GB storage... he is saying that every D2 player had a $500+ HDD lmao

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

So soon it will free! Can't wait

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The trouble was less dollar to space in the past as it was dollar to certain benchmarks of space.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Someone do one for the average physical size taken up by 1 GB.

When I was a kid we had a 500 MB drive that was the size of a brick and now we have microsd cards that are 1TB. Pretty wild.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The spec exists for a 128TB SDUC card.
There probably doesn't exists one yet, or maybe only in a lab somewhere and probably costs more than my car.
Still, today's storage density is kinda nuts.
Within my lifetime, we've went from 1.5MB being high-density portable storage, now you can have a 2TB thumb drive in your pocket.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it is based upon this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/historical-cost-of-computer-memory-and-storage

45 years ago the cost was 567 382,81 for a GB. Now it is 0.01 for a GB.

Although the graph is in TB.

Most likely not based on consumer hardware though.

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