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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

With parties like this, painful collapse is the only way to avoid multigenerational destitution.

There is no saving the United States as a framework. It is far too compromised, with too many methods installed to keep the people willfully ignorant and infighting as the owners suck their life forces dry for profit.

We can limp along and pretend that isn't the case, but climate change, aka the reality that doesn't give a shit about our self-delusion and greed worship, will force that collapse sooner rather than later. Reality can't be bribed, deluded, disappeared, or discredited.

Enjoy living in delusion that a society can function in capitalist competition against itself, the ability to do so is coming to an end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 37 minutes ago

If only the consequences only applied to the people causing the issue. We're all in the blast radius. I hope I live long enough to see hope returning. So far it's just been a constant decline.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

“To all those growing skeptical of this party’s strategies and overall agenda, let me just say we hear you loud and clear. Rest assured we will be doing everything short of interpreting that sound into words and responding to those words in any way shape or form.”

This is an all-timer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

And remember, you gotta start repaying the student loans you never used!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

100% Spot-On article. The Hard Times nails it again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Pffft!!! If your idea of "learning" is to copy any of the fascist ideas of trump, then yes, they should NOT learn anything. Did Jews after Hitler go fascist...... Oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

What trump does well is saying things that people want to hear. Obama was good at that as well when he first ran. That is what all good candidates do and it's what the dems should do regardless if they learn it from trump or not

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

What should they really learn? I'm sick of the blame being placed on decent people not doing enough.

How about we blame the pieces of crap that support Trump who has too many disgusting qualities to list.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Blaming them does nothing to help us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, we can blame the DNC some. But we should definitely be blaming Trump voters and non-voters.

The reverse side of this (that the Onion should do next) is:

"Oh yeah. I didn't go out and vote. Surely the 30th time in a row means the DNC will learn their lesson and then promote leftist policy like I want!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

OK, let's blame Trump voters. Sounds good. Now what? Replace the voters?

Trump voters are a symptom of a cultural and economic situation created entirely by neoliberals. Blame the voters all you want, but I don't see how that's supposed to get us anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

The blame still stops at the leading Democrats.

Consider this. How could so many people vote for someone who is such a clear threat to democracy?

Simple. Because despite everything they said, his opponents never actually treated him as a threat to democracy.

Biden appointed a Republican to run the Department of Justice, and that Republican sat on his hands, refusing to do any investigation of Trump until he was forced to do so by House investigative committees. It took TWO YEARS before an investigation even began. This delay allowed Trump to eventually run out the clock.

Trump should have been in chains on the day Biden took office. He should have faced trial in a military tribunal. Any attempt by SCOTUS to protect him should have been declared "a coup from the bench" and seen those justices charged as accomplices after the fact.

THAT is how you need to handle an actual threat to democracy. Trump should have been put on trial, through whatever means necessary. Hell, ideally he should have received a capital sentence for his crimes against the republic. He betrayed his country. He is guilty of treason. The man should have hanged for his crimes.

But that wasn't how Biden treated it. Trump was an EPOCHAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY, but not enough to risk angering conservative white voters in suburban Philadelphia. He was THE NEXT INCARNATION OF HITLER, but not so Hitlerian as to justify any kind of dubious legal maneuvers that a fascist like Trump would have no problem pulling off.

Biden and co have been shouting that Trump is a threat do democracy for the better part of a decade at this point. But they never actually treated him like one. Actions speak louder than words. Democrats said Trump was a threat to democracy, but they never actually treated him like one. The Democrats, through their actions, made it clear that they didn't think Trump was a real threat to democracy, so the voters acted accordingly.

If Democrats were actually serious about the threat, Trump would have been tried by military tribunal, sentenced, and been locked away or put in the ground two years ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

They should learn how to win, for one.

You know what they need more of? Bernie's populist rhetoric. A promise that something will actually be different. Obama won on that promise, and then did nothing with it.

15 million people don't go missing unless your party is dead.

And bare in mind, I'm not saying anyone should have voted 3rd party; we can't do that without at least RCV. But something needs to reanimate the Democrats' corpse or we will all die at the hands of the next Mussolini.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

TBH I'd be afraid of them learning anything with headlines telling them to blame Palestine supporters and Minorities.

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