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CNN has reported that Israel’s Mossad headquarters are located in a “densely populated area” in Tel Aviv, posing risks to civilians during Iran’s attack.

“The concern is if your firing, even though Iran might consider that a military target, it is in a densely populated city with civilians around it," CNN reported.

The remarks raised questions on social media on why West did not accuse the intelligence agency of using Israeli civilians as "human shields", as they claim Hamas and Hezbollah do.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago

See, see, they are using humans as a shield!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago

I mean this itself isn't a problem, because who the fuck builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere? But it's ironic given they keep crying about Hamas headquarters being in residential areas (again, who builds their headquarters in the middle of nowhere).

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

If you ask Israel, they have no problems with bombing many civilians to get a target.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

So by Israel's own standard of discourse, they're "using human shields" and hence any amount of killing of Israeli civilians is perfectly justified not matter how great the disproportion of civilians to non-civilians killed, their age or gender.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Rules for thee...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

If you're* firing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The remarks raised questions on social media on why West did not accuse the intelligence agency of using Israeli civilians as “human shields”, as they claim Hamas and Hezbollah do.

Because that would be devastating to their case.

The US supports Israel for reasons unrelated to them being truthful or good actors (possibly just mysticism). They try not to openly say that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean it's more because the pentagon, cia, NSA, and most of our secure weapons design facilities are based well within cities because employees in places like area 51 (groom lake) are fairly easy to track given the relatively remote location.

We do it, they do it, everyone does it both out of immorality and necessity often at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's not even just security. People live in cities, so things tend to be built near cities.

The argument Hamas being anywhere in Gaza counts as using human shields was fully bullshit. In their case, they operate(d) mostly as guerillas, so they didn't have conventional military bases to build in any place in particular, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Ah, Israel is using human shields? I'm sure every government was quick to condemn them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Like blowing up a daycare because someone you tortured said Hamas was there? At least the Mossad is actually in the building.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Bigotry and racism, what else?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Duh, they've been doing this since at least 1913 (operation manta ray iirc if you look up 1946 king George bombing, you'll find it). It's why everyone in the region uses civilians as shields.