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Spacebar is a free, opensource selfhostable discord-compatible chat, voice and video platform.

  • Discord-compatible (Use all your custom clients/bots with minimal changes)
  • Selfhostable (Server)
  • Open Source (GitHub Organization)
  • Configurable (Configure every aspect and limits to your needs)
  • Decentralized (no abuse of power and doesn't have a single point of failure)
  • Extendable (secure and cross-platform plugin system)
  • Themeable (cross-platform theme system with design editor)
  • Secure (publicly audited and hosted FOSS software for transparent foundation in terms of security)
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[–] [email protected] 170 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

https://docs.spacebar.chat/faq/

Currently there is no voice or video support in any Spacebar instance. This is a very difficult feature to get working, especially given that we must implement it the exact same way as Discord.com for client compatibility. We would be incredibly thankful for any assistance.

Damn.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Discuss without voice, might aswell use IRC

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Mumble is so underrated. It does one job and but does it very well.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah I'd love to move my gang off discord but getting them to go back to team speak or vent is not happening

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mumble is another strong, open source, self-hosted option.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

If only it didn't looked like a 20 year old software.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe it's just me but I think the Mumble UI is way better than the Discord UI

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yay mumble!

And I agree: it's better. I think it's faster and that, IMHO, is where the power is. It can look boring like a hammer as long as it's intuitive ... like a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know about the UX, but if you want peoples to use your app, it need to look nice.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Some of the best stuff in the world looks like it's 20 years past a prime that isn't, because they're truly good eternal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's voice chat, you choose a server and then minimize to tray, you never have to look at it...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Same, if only teamspeak supported screen sharing / streaming, then it would be fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I thought discord streaming was so dumb until I was trying to reach my friend something in a game. Now we use it a couple times per month, it's great. I hate that I like Discord lol

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

2 questions:

  1. Does it stop all the incessant annoying pop-ups and fake notifications?
  2. Does it prevent Discord from selling all of my personal information to ~~Open~~ClosedAI?
[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell, it's not Discord, but an open source alternative. So I don't think it talks to regular discord servers, but you can use any Discord compatible client to talk to SpaceBarChat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think it talks to regular discord servers

So what does "Discord compatible" mean?

I tried this back when it was "FOSSCORD" and it did indeed connect to Discord.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It means that clients and bots for Discord will also work with this.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Well, just glancing at it, it isn't discord. It doesn't connect to discord servers at all.

What it does is replicate discord, in a way that allows users to still make use of things that discord users are already into. Bots in particular.

So discord won't have access to anything that goes on at all, unless you're using something that also connects to discord.

Pop-ups and fake notifications would have more to do with the client you're using than the back-end would, so if you use a client that does those things, I wouldn't bet on that changing.

The caveat: I'm no dev of any kind, so I can't say anything about the actual code, I'm basing this on their own description. I linked the page to my cousin that sometimes will give a quick scan for hinky shit for me, but there's no telling if or when he'll do so nd get back to me.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why not just use Matrix? I thought it was the goto FOSS and decentralized Discord alternative.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Matrix doesn't offer the same experience as discord. I'm sorry but it doesn't. I set up my own to compare to see if my friend group would like it, and it was quite a step backwards. Even in it's best platform element it was missing a lot of stuff from discord.

So, things like this I'd be very interested to watch. Revolt looked the most promising but it didn't offer federation, and I wasn't going to make everyone have a separate accountjust for our server

So this will be interesting. I will need at least voice to get them to come over, but I'll watch this project closely

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Voice & screensharing seems to be the thing holding all of my friends chained to discord

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, it's a valid reason. I originally joined Discord back in 2016 because of it's easy to use voice. It became the standard for voice chat. Before that I had been using the Xbox party chat and other garbage voice systems.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

We were using Skype... Dark days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Element seems to have voice and video chats in beta right now, and they plan to implement it into the Element application, so it looks like it is on the way at least.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the original question could be about the protocol. Why not use Matrix as the protocol for the project? No one is doing the work to bring a Matrix-based Discord alternative because they're a) on Discord b) creatin IRC face-lifts like Element c) refusing to quit IRC d) making projects with bespoke protocols like this one. It's incredibly frustrating.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Unusably laggy no matter what instance you use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

My instance is pretty fast. Run Conduwuit as the server, problem solved

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i cant confirm that. especially in the light of the new sliding sync implemented in elementx. it’s a nightmare for admins but for users it should be fine

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Revolt is kinda “centralized”. You can host your own version, but they seem to actively discourage you from doing so.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very bad. Spacebar is nowhere as functional as Revolt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you explain your opinion of the differences? A friend and I are interested in learning more about Discord alternatives that we can get our less tech-savvy friends to switch to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Revolt offers voice chat and this doesn’t.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is there any sort of way to have the chat logs be public and searchable? the worst thing about discord being a walled garden is that all the info on it can only be accessed by a discord client.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Spacebar looks great, and is exactly what I want, but it doesn't look close to production ready yet

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I've been trying to find a more privacy-friendy alternative to Discord but I keep coming back to the issue of screen sharing. No other platform does it as smoothly.

The best I've found is using Parsec with some virtual audio cables to avoid voice feedback.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why pick this over ArmCord?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Armcord is a discord client. Spacebar is a discord alternative (server+client)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just now heard of armcord which I'm going to give a shot on Linux here soon but looks like armcord is just a client, while this is a server as well.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, what are some alternative discord clients to use with it ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

WebCord supports it.

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