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Portugal Runs on 100% Renewables Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero for 6 Days in a Row::In total, there were 149 hours of total renewables generation, 95 of which saw the Portuguese grid exporting to Spain

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure I still pay all the renewable energy I consume at home. I wish the bill was zero, that would be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to go ahead and assume that the article means it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it. It would be fairly misleading though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It still Should cost.

Renewable is far from free

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it

i'm always confused by this. does this include traditional fuel or just the electric grid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope, all of Portugal now only has electric vehicles. No air planes, only zeppelins and hot air balloons. No boats, only floaty arm bands, rafts, canoes, and kayaks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

feeling edgy today, aren't we?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Our electric company charges 25% more for renewables.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah, the old "I'm sucking your money tit as long as I can while my industry dies and I refuse to innovate with my profits" tax.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yea I was curious about that, is there a certain amount that's paid for? If it was all free, it would incentivize some people to exceed normal usage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

As I understand, this happens when renewables 'overproduce' and we need to get rid of the power somehow. People can gladly use as much power as they want in that case. Even if someone fills up batteries for free to later sell back into the grid when production normalizes, that is actually very much what we want. It just adds storage capacity and ensures prices will stay low for longer.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

"Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero" sorry, but this is a bunch of bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Portugal runs on renewables. America runs on Dunkins.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Aren’t there any maintenance costs?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

149 hours of total renewables generation, 95 of which saw the Portuguese grid exporting to Spain

Pretty sure this is why. They sold the excess energy to Spain which probably paid for those costs by itself, leaving nothing to bill citizens for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

"nearly zero"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

i'm glad for the renewable production hitting new heights

"consumer electric bills to nearly zero" is utter unsubstantiated bullshit, though

Portugal has one of the highest prices of electricity for consumers in the EU, while having one of the lowest purchasing powers

btw, shit is getting worse for most really, really fast, in part due to the gentrification and deluge of new residents with wallets unfathomably heavier coming from Germany, France, UK and USA to the new Florida of Europe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Not true.

Source: Sou portugues caralho, and tbh the pope would suck my dick if it was true

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Isn't this news way older? Remember an article from a week or so ago, stating the exact same thing.

https://lemmy.world/post/8545023 sire was, all the same user. So no content, just farming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yet... the electricity bill has tripled since July, as new taxes were introduced to fuck you over. Consumer bills are definitely not dropping and definitely not near zero.