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Portugal Runs on 100% Renewables Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero for 6 Days in a Row (www.goodnewsnetwork.org)
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Portugal Runs on 100% Renewables Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero for 6 Days in a Row::In total, there were 149 hours of total renewables generation, 95 of which saw the Portuguese grid exporting to Spain

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure I still pay all the renewable energy I consume at home. I wish the bill was zero, that would be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to go ahead and assume that the article means it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it. It would be fairly misleading though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It still Should cost.

Renewable is far from free

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it

i'm always confused by this. does this include traditional fuel or just the electric grid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope, all of Portugal now only has electric vehicles. No air planes, only zeppelins and hot air balloons. No boats, only floaty arm bands, rafts, canoes, and kayaks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

feeling edgy today, aren't we?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Our electric company charges 25% more for renewables.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah, the old "I'm sucking your money tit as long as I can while my industry dies and I refuse to innovate with my profits" tax.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yea I was curious about that, is there a certain amount that's paid for? If it was all free, it would incentivize some people to exceed normal usage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

As I understand, this happens when renewables 'overproduce' and we need to get rid of the power somehow. People can gladly use as much power as they want in that case. Even if someone fills up batteries for free to later sell back into the grid when production normalizes, that is actually very much what we want. It just adds storage capacity and ensures prices will stay low for longer.