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[–] [email protected] 288 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I've been told that the stuff isn't actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I'd actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!

Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn't melt like plastic, it burned like paper.

I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️

I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!

[–] [email protected] 120 points 11 months ago

You are a modern day Magellan, never change

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can't just drop a thesis like that without telling us what the good brand was my guy :(

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

LMFAO! I hear ya there!

Sorry to say that I don't remember what brand of cheese it was the first time I tried that years ago, but I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value.

I never did try rolling or smoking a joint with either test though. Being naturally skeptical about the random advice, I only tested just burning the wrap by itself. Weed costs too much to waste on experiments ya know haha!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

I can tell you what brand not to use as I just basically confirmed they use plastic wrap, Great Value

Wal-Mart's store brand being shit doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course it was Walmart’s store brand

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Indeed, what else should we expect? ☹️

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I can help you on that.

The brand is Trip. It works alright (both for rolling and smoking), but there are better paper (e.g. Raw).

I'd consider it as mostly gimmick. Again, not a bad product overall, tho.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have clear rolling papers and they're a cool gimmick but not at all practical for everyday use. Harder to roll and doesn't stick to itself as well.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics...

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (3 children)

>go to mcdonald's

>order hot cakes and a large orange juice

>receive hot cakes in plastic container, with six individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and a plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup and a large plastic cup of orange juice

>throw away plastic straw

>pull out reusable metal straw

>I'm saving the environment one breakfast at a time

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Ha ha in France they just stopped giving you straws. The paper cup for the drinks just said on it something like "To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You're not an infant " lol

Now they have those reusable cups and fry holders, which are suspiciously smaller than the paper ones

Only thing I noticed that was single use plastic was the little tub of sauce

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

"To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant "

Based as fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Here, the paper straws were individually packed in plastic foil.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I know this probably isn't the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan "Make America Grate Again" claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it... Libertarian?

Isn't that pretty authoritarian?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it's the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (19 children)

If they didn't they would all melt together cause that stuff isn't real cheese.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

when the contents have as much plastic as the packaging

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They could use parchment paper I think.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Was just about to say this. A decent amount of brands do use paper instead of plastic to separate individual slices, but I’ve only seen it with real cheese. Never with American cheese

Also before anyone says something, no, American cheese is not real cheese. In fact, it contains less than 50% cheese. It is officially considered a “pasteurized processed American cheese food”.

Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ingredients for Kraft American cheese slices:

CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), NATAMYCIN (A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

It’s not health food, but if it’s less than 50% cheese it’s because of the milk/milk products added into it to make it meltier. The only thing making up more than 2% of it that isn’t cheese or a milk product is sodium and calcium phosphate. Different cheeses for different jobs.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

melting onto leftover spaghetti

This one caught me off guard, but I'll admit I'm intrigued.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (12 children)

That's because all you absolute fucking babies are still crying they took your plastic straw away.

The reason we don't have sensible climate conversations leading to real action is because the SLIGHTEST thing anyone suggests and you fucking scream your toddler heads off for years!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Many modern humans are a bunch of entitled little shits and it applies across the political spectrum.

I strongly believe every person needs to experience serious adversity at some point - homelessness, joblessness, food insecurity, chronic health issues, or chronic pain. I have had most of the above (and still have some, yay chronic health issues) and that made me a better person by giving me perspective. I don't give a shit about losing plastic straws; on the contrary, I welcome their loss, they're stupid and polluting. I can walk and I have a warm place to sleep at night, losses like plastic straws seem as trivial as they truly are.

All the best people I know went through some shit or are empathetic enough to understand what it's like. The worst people I know either were protected from adversity, lack the empathy to learn from others, or went through an adverse situation but didn't have the tools to properly work through it so it made them worse.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they're all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Or just don't buy American cheese because it's gross and fake.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.

Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don't give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.

I'm sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn't switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.

Nothing more. There's way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit.... Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything.... Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.

They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to... Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these "issues" like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial....

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Good American cheese isn't individually wrapped. Only the really cheap shit comes like that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Good American cheese is the really cheap shit.

The whole point of American cheese is that it’s barely cheese and more like a delicious coagulated milk-stuff sheet.

Gourmet American Cheese is some 1%-er bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The good American cheese is not in fact "1%-er bullshit". Have you gone to a restaurant like McDonalds? You have eaten the better stuff, which comes pre-stacked in a large block. It is certainly much better.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wait .. did you just tell me that McDonald's uses gourmet cheese??

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.

I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Considered the following:

The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it's boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).

Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it's fantastic.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (21 children)

I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I've paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Why the fuck didn't Twizzlers capitalise on the non-plastic straw market?!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Cheese like this always tastes gross.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is not real cheese, it is american cheese.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

For the record, good American cheese does exist. It's just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded "cheese product" stuff in plastic wrappers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

A daily reminder that durable biocellulose plastics have been available for over 75 years.

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