I am a green man standing in shallow water, throwing a scroll.
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Kind of.
Harris: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678
Sanders: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357
There are some who voted ideologically closer. But the fact that she’s somewhere between Sanders and Warren is reassuring.
That's a crazy helpful site. Thanks for sharing.
the desperate mud slinging from the GOP is going to be hilarious. i'll never forget when they tried to shit on AOC because she was caught gasp dancing in some student project music video.
and god-fucking-forbid anyone ever tends bar for money
They're just mad that she's an attractive young POC
They hate women so much, it's crazy.
Especially women of color.
Am I crazy to think he'd be a great VP pick?
Crazy? No. The timing and optics would be wrong since Sanders wouldn't help Harris' campaign play to its advantages. Finding younger candidates with consistent and (hopefully) progressive records, who aren't currently targets for the Right, and who hold little political baggage, is a better play.
By the same reasoning I think Newsom and Buttigieg aren't good picks even though they'd do well in the role. The new Dem Pres campaign should make sure the Right's propagandists have to work hard at effective attack ads. Running any Left-Wing Face misses this initiative.
For context: I'm still bitter about Bernie being pushed out of previous Presidential campaign runs, still think he was the best choice both times, and know he'd make a great VP.
Oh shit is she a secret progressive???
She's a good person and a political pragmatist, who is willing to concede a point to gain ten. She has, like most intelligent adults, evolved farther and farther left to embrace reality.
(While those in the the Wrong Wing cling to their assorted bigotries and boogiemen, as they lose all grip on sanity and embrace a venal madman as their Savior.)
For what it's worth, I've helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.
Damn. A good customer in a retail setting. Now that's how I know someone's an actual good person. Having worked like 10 years of retail front line, that alone make me want to vote for her more. Lol.
For what it's worth, I've helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.
Not that I needed more reason than "let's not have fascism", but that's a big endorsement to me.
Good person? Good Lord tap the brakes people. She was a prosecutor.
Yes, it was her job, and she did it effectively. She also fought against a measure allowing juveniles to be tried in adult court, but she lost that one.
Let's see, prosecutor or felon, prosecutor or felon, which should I vote for? (Remember, we're not talking about a weed felony or stealing food for a starving family here.)
I'll take Kamala any day. And if Trump walked in the front door where I was working retail, I'd walk out the back.
This has to be verified. Like if this is true, then this can be one of the main messages. No?
It's a terrible message for trying to convert ex-republican independents. It's not Trump's welfare policies they object to.
Yes, that would make no sense for that. It would make total sense to energise the people. Democrats don't need to convert anyone to win, they just need to get people to vote.
Whoa, really? Is there somewhere I can verify this?
It's not accurate. But she did vote closer to him than most other Democrats.
I'll take that.
Same!
Should be noted that these kind of statistics are typically heavily influenced by the sheer number of garbage bills like what to rename a post office. Specific major issues is more the problem actual voters have.
If the stats lean closer to Bernie's record than others (I'd have to do some research to see, but let's assume) then it's still more of an indication she'll be better than the others she's being compared to on major issues. Biden is on record saying he wouldn't sign a bill for universal healthcare, but he's still better than Trump overall.
Biden's quote had a qualifying statement to that iirc. Something about without tax support?
So it was technically saying he wouldn't support paying for universal healthcare on credit.
Buy, hey, he'll pay for the Gaza genocide on credit, so who cares about the details?
is this true? I know nothing about US politics, but everything I hear from/about Bernie makes him sound awesome.
As a fan of Bernie this fantastic news, I want to hug the scroll if it can be corroborated.
I would imagine it depends a lot on how you quantify things, there's all sorts of procedural votes and "renaming a post office" bills with no real substance that you could reasonably argue should or shouldn't be included, to say nothing of ranking the partisan quality of different legislation (like, if Sanders and Harris both voted the same way in a routine budget bill that got unanimous support, should that count the same as them voting the same on some legislation he sponsored that failed or something?).
That all said, this CNN article I found from 2020 makes it sound more true than not, but there's some nuance - tl;dr, at the start of her career as a state AG she did some more conservativ-ish things, but she's been consistently more and more progressive since then.
My personal opinion is that she's willing to change her positions a lot if she thinks that's where voters are going, which isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the last generation of Democratic leaders who are also willing to change their positions a lot but think voters are way more conservative than they actually are (because that generation is still stuck in the 1980s). Kamala didn't start talking about Medicare for All until Bernie made it popular, but when he did she didn't have a problem jumping on board (unlike Biden, who would only ever go as far as public option).
I don't think that is how statistics work.. but ok.