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[–] [email protected] 138 points 11 months ago (2 children)

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (8 children)

In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing "missing" is the definition of which qualities you shouldn't discriminate against. But that's now generalized into "groups of people".

I still can't discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters".

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Good. Because it's fucking delicious and I don't care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It's still delicious, we just do less coke now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Pineapple pairs the best with spicy pizzas, I always add it as an extra.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I fucks with jalapenos, yeah. Especially if I'm high. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Jalapenos with the pineapple is so stupidly good. You get bacon on there and then it's like the crossroads of heavenly flavors. It's not a pizza for the meek.

It's a five gallon hat wearing, tambourine hand flailin, tastebuds up the wall wailin, genuine taste sensation!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Hot take: ham doesn't go on pizza. The pineapple isn't the problem

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What about people who don't eat pizza crust?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They are wonderful people. Especially when they tear off the crust so I can eat it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They're useful idiots if they give me their crusts.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Some day we will eradicate your kind

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

As it is worded you can't discriminate against nazis and racists either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can discriminate all you want, you just can't harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you can't read it too literally. Otherwise you also can't discriminate against "people who wrote their comment later" and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between "early comment writers" and "late comment writers".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Literal is the only way these things are supposed to be read.

They could easily fix it by saying "groups (except for those that promote discrimination and/or hate such as nazis and racists)"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can't harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn't naturally ginger, that's their perogative.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was my takeaway, too, and I think it's positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that's bad for the broader community, they can change it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Of course we would, and that's also exactly why we invited users to discuss and provide feedback while launching it. It is a living document, and we hope to update and improve it periodically and consistently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you're making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you're doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they've been relatively minor, and (2) they've been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Thank you. I appreciate your sincere response, and I can assure you the rest of our team will too. Differences in decisions may naturally occur, of course, but I think being able to reason things is what matters in the end. Here's wishing you a great one.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like my pineapple pizzas with a bbq base 🤪 don't come after me 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'll split that pizza with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters"

True ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nazis are a group of people. Republicans are a group of people. Pedophiles are a group of people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi's and Pedophiles is an admonishment of illegal evil.

Your inclusion of Republicans is a bit of an extreme juxtaposition. Feel free to admonish the individual evil views of Republicans, but to discriminate against Republicans purely for their association is rightly against ToS.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Kebab meat and pineapple, thin crust. I will fight to the death for that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.