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5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.
In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing "missing" is the definition of which qualities you shouldn't discriminate against. But that's now generalized into "groups of people".
I still can't discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters".
Good. Because it's fucking delicious and I don't care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It's still delicious, we just do less coke now.
Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?
You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!
What about people who don't eat pizza crust?
They are wonderful people. Especially when they tear off the crust so I can eat it.
I love some pineapple pizza!
Some day we will eradicate your kind
As it is worded you can't discriminate against nazis and racists either.
You can discriminate all you want, you just can't harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.
I think you can't read it too literally. Otherwise you also can't discriminate against "people who wrote their comment later" and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between "early comment writers" and "late comment writers".
Literal is the only way these things are supposed to be read.
They could easily fix it by saying "groups (except for those that promote discrimination and/or hate such as nazis and racists)"
By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can't harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn't naturally ginger, that's their perogative.
That was my takeaway, too, and I think it's positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that's bad for the broader community, they can change it.
Of course we would, and that's also exactly why we invited users to discuss and provide feedback while launching it. It is a living document, and we hope to update and improve it periodically and consistently.
Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you're making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you're doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they've been relatively minor, and (2) they've been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.
Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?
That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.
OP completely ignoring 5.0.1
Well they banned me for saying I don't like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.
Argh. Now I‘m on your side here, and think the ban was neither justified nor was their policy of "Everyone STFU this thread is now locked, you are all dumb" in any way something that makes me think communities should be hosted on lemmy.world. But calling it "saying I don’t like ads" is utterly ridiculous.
Every comment is still available to read at the moment. This doesn't seem like the place for a long and elaborate recap. That's pretty much what it boils down to though. The irony is that several people harassed me and they are completely fine with that because it supports their biased opinion. If you look through their comment history they are very supportive of this particular piece of software. So anything against this is bad and must be banned. It likely wouldn't even matter what it is. They just ban first and justify it later and make up some nonsense such as "harassment".
The double irony is that they are going to end up harming lemmy.world and possibly do irreparable damage to the lemmyverse long term and then their friend will no longer be able to profit much from ads.
Unless you provide the exact text you were banned for, I'll be having my doubts.
https://lemmy.world/comment/3536316
https://lemmy.world/comment/3535459
https://lemmy.world/comment/3531009
Another kind of funny thing is that this is on Lemmy.ml. "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts."
Was this during the sync thing?
To be honest as a mod or admin I would personally get sick of reading the same things over and over again, with sync fans attacking staunch FOSSers and staunch FOSSers attacking sync fans. It only served to get both sides upset for literally no reason, and fracture the community even more.
Their inboxes would have also likely been flooded out to death during that time with both sides reporting each other over petty remarks
Doesn't make it right, however I can see why it happened. Probably another reason behind the "dont report something unless its against the terms" rule.
I've definitely never reported anyone related to this. They came to a FOSS community and then got upset when people criticize the propritizing of FOSS software. They should change the rules to not allow any criticize of the ad business model instead of banning people for made up reasons. 🤷
Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit
Basically, they don't even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn't like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that "users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World." There's no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism "disagreeing with the terms of service".
Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won't matter to them.
This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.
Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.
Have you asked the admins/mods of lemmy.world about this before posting this?
Of course not, haha. Just some intentional misinterpretation.
Literally Reddit 2.0, but with a ~~F~~OSS coat of paint.
Lmao, what a shithole.
Redditors gonna Reddit