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Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has replaced the Hide Desktop icon with Copilot.
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Switch to Linux!
From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1as1yjk/microsoft_in_their_infinite_wisdom_has_replaced/
"Hey I have a problem with my Samsung"
"Drop it and get an iPhone instead"
This is what you guys are like.
When people tell you to use Linux, they're not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your "show desktop" icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.
Who asked you for help with our relationship? I believe someone complained about a random feature change. And here you are. Telling everyone to just fuck off and switch completely. It’s insane.
JFC people like you ... You have like the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I've ever seen. I swear the only reason you are getting so angry and defensive when people recommend Linux is because deep down you know they're speaking the truth.
No. It’s annoying being told the only solution is to throw everything out the window and start over. No stockholm syndrome I run a Ubuntu server and ran arch when I was 14. Fuck off with your stupid takes and offer a real solution to the problem.
Yeah, real mature take you have there buddy.
"My husband always beats me when he is drunk. Don't tell me to leave him, just tell me how I get him to stop beating me"
^ This is you basically.
No. That is your perspective to a situation. That is not fact. Stop valueing your own voice so highly. You start to forget you can be wrong.
Listen, if you don't like what I have to say, don't read my comments, block me or stop replying or something, but I'm not going to shut myself up to please some random twerp like you.
Listen I'm all for Linux and use it myself, but this is not the way to get people to switch. Even I'm starting to get annoyed by all the answers in these threads being "Just switch to Linux, there are definitely no problems and it's a 1:1 workflow." (Yes, hyperbole. But you get the idea.) If a user has an issue and does not want, or cannot, switch to Linux, then Linux is not the solution.
You're not wrong. They're still stuck in the "abusive relationship" with MS. In fact you're absolutely right. But trying to push Linux onto these people like this only results in their view of Linux getting worse, and makes them more likely to stay on Windows to avoid the insufferable Linux users. It's coming from a good place, but it's honestly not helping. Every solution needs to consider the user's use case and their parameters, or else it doesn't matter. In the end what you're saying is not wrong at all, but you're still not offering the right solution.
Exactly. The only abusive relationship is their view towards users who will not accept their solution as gospel.
I have a way for you both:
Give two solutions, one short-term and second long-term.
I'm not a Windows user, and certainly not a Windows expert. Why should I have to provide solutions to Windows problems? I use Linux so that I don't have to bother with that shit.
Then don't bother and don't give a solution. Or at least say "I don't know if there is a short-term solution in a form of simple switch, but I know if we switch from Windows in long-term there won't br such problems ever again".
Again, I'm not going to silence or censor myself for some random internet bully like you. Who the fuck are you to say what kind of advise I can and cannot give? Get lost.
You're right, sorry for that. This is what I would give as an advice, you can give whatever advice you like, I shouldn't write this in such imperative form.
Well even so you're barking up the wrong tree. Read my comment history: I never gave anyone the personal advise to switch to Linux, because honestly I don't care about what anyone uses, and frankly I dislike Windows users coming over to Linux forums expecting everything to be the same as Windows under a different name and complaining when it isn't. I was merely explaining why people are giving that advise.
And how well has that worked so far?
For people like me who took that advice: pretty damn great actually, thanks for asking!
How many people have you managed to convert in this thread?
Me! Switched to fedora from Windows about 3 years ago and don't regret it one bit. Probably the best decision I've made in regards to personal computing in my adult life.
If you switched 3 years ago, you haven't been converted in this very thread.
Did Lemmy even exist 3 years ago? I thought the Lemmy migration was only last summer.
it has existed for many years but it wasn't much fun til it hit a critical mass of users
Yeah, since 2019
https://lemmy.ml/u/dessalines
lead dev
Even if it's only one, I will have helped one person, unlike you who has only been bitching and moaning.
If that's what you think will improve how the Linux community is perceived, then do go on.
This may sound strange to you, but I actually don't give a single fuck about how you perceive things.
Oh I wasn't talking about me.
Yes you were sweetie.
I keep seeing this, and yes, it's running the image of the Linux community. Even for me who's part of it.
"Help, Windows problem."
"Linux is the answer."
"But I want to use Windows."
"Then you're a stupid ingrate who's below me and deserve nothing good in your life."
Do you hear yourselves? I'm exaggerating, but come on guys. You're better than this, good grief.
I'm actually helping someone from this convert rn.
I did switch around a month ago due to a thread similar to this, and I have booted windows like twice since then, and im really glad I made the switch. So, yes, threads like this did help me, while also providing good starting tips.
More like:
“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”
"Here's a custom ROM you can install instead" (but also glosses over a lot of the finer decisions that go into whether or not to choose to run a custom ROM)
iPhone is $999+, Linux is completely free.
It’s funny this meme of iPhones being expensive is still a thing.
The cheapest one is under $450.
That's still expensive compared to $0
why would anyone buy an even more pos phone. I had a 12 and 13 before my pixel there is nothing good about them, unless you are insecure about people's thoughts on what color your msgs are. also you don't need to copy and paste you comment on everyone's damn comment no one give a fuck.
You need to chill.
I responded to a grand total of 2 comments with the same sentiment but they were not copies of each other. The over the top aggressive response is completely unwarranted.
What's more is that yours and my mom don't need flagship phone performance and what you refer to as a "pos phone" would do just fine for the vast majority of people's use cases without coming close to utilizing all available resources.
I'm correcting the evidently popular belief that iPhones are expensive. As it turns out, only the expensive ones are expensive. Imagine that.
you don't have to pay for a +1000$ device to switch to Linux. In most cases, you can just install it in the same machine you have Windows.
It's more like replacing Samsung's Android ROM with a custom ROM. Sure, you'll have to learn new things to use it, but you don't have to buy an iPhone.
I'd argue that's still not a very good comparison, because for ROMs you have to go through the trouble of researching the specific method for your phone brand, model, & firmware version, learning adb, unlocking the bootloader, flashing a custom recovery, then from there you can install a custom ROM. Then if you fuck up you have to figure out how to debrick the device.
While Linux(user friendly distros specifically) is just burning an ISO to a USB, possibly changing 1 or 2 settings in the BIOS & booting from that USB, then just clicking through a graphical installer like calamares.
The barrier to entry is drastically smaller.
I get what you’re saying but I just want to point out that the lowest cost iPhone is under $450.
Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.
You misunderstood what the metaphor was.
Are iPhones free now?
It does sometimes feel like a guy with face scars from an exploded Samsung reaching for another Samsung while saying "I hope they've made improvements"
Lol you wish Linux was an equivalent to an iPhone in this analogy. Pretty analogy from you.