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[–] [email protected] 96 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ...

Investigators said the boy used a chair to access the handgun which was "unsafely" and insecurely stored on top of a kitchen cabinet.

The kid was eight years old and he put the gun where parents unsuccessfully put the fucking cookie jar.

I try not to read articles like this because they just make me sick and I regret reading this one.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I generally try not to read them either. I have elementary age kids. Before I had kids I owned a handgun and would go to the range but when the kids came along the gun had to go. There’s no level of risk other than zero that’s acceptable to me in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

thank you for being a responsible and respectable parent👍🌻

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Amen to that, the best risk mitigation is to remove the risk! Completely agree

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nichols was not permitted to own a firearm due to a previous drug-related conviction, according to police.

Sometimes I'm disappointed that being this much of a fucking idiot isn't a crime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Isn't the point of the article that it is a crime now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was already illegal. Now it's also a crime to keep your gun somewhere a child can get to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So what everyone was keeping their guns on the shelf by the front door prior to this were they?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Have you seen some of the setups for quick firearm retrieval? There's one where you basically hit your beds headboard and a shotgun falls out. I would be killing in my dreams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

They apparently were keeping them unlocked on top of cupboards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I mean on its own. Like, this guy has already shown he's a fucking idiot, what can we do to keep society safe from him before he does something irresponsible and gets a child killed?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Knowing you are the reason someone is dead, fuck. Be adult and store your weapons properly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But if it's locked up, it takes too much work when you want to wave it around feeling badass.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Those "get out of murder free" moments can come and go in an instant. You don't have time to be fucking around with a gun safe when your doorbell rings or a car pulls into your driveway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

John Wayne was a cowboy and so am I, Pilgrim!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Knowing you are the reason your kid is dead. Or maimed. Christ how do you live with that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like guns, I don't currently own any, that will probably change at some point in my life, but one of the several reasons I don't have one is because I don't have any space in my house that I'd want taken up by a gun safe.

I don't even have kids and I don't plan on having any, I can count the amount of times there has been a child in my house on one hand with fingers to spare, and if I have it my way my count will never reach my other hand, and the only time those children were out of an adult's immediate supervision while they were here was when they were in the bathroom, but I can't guarantee that will always be the case, I don't know what friends or relatives may bring kids over and what may happen that will distract us from what they're doing.

I live in a pretty safe neighborhood, but break-ins happen, and I don't want my guns out on the streets, so not only will my safe be merely child-proof, it's also going to be securely bolted to the wall and/or floor, and it's going to be hard to break into, and ideally hidden from sight. No one's getting guns out of my house against my will without at least some time and power tools.

Should my wife or I ever have a mental health crisis, I want to make sure that we have the means to secure those guns until we can get them out of the house by changing the combo or hiding the keys or whatever (and that would also be the end of guns in our house for good)

Anyone who doesn't think of these kinds of circumstances has no business owning a gun.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Thats an old looking 56.