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Sept 5 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a television interview on Tuesday, without citing evidence, that Western powers had installed Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who is of Jewish heritage, as president of Ukraine to cover up the glorification of Nazism.

In justifying its invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special military operation," Russia accuses Kyiv's leaders of being neo-Nazis pursuing a "genocide" of Russian-speakers - an assertion that Kyiv and Western countries dismiss as a baseless pretext for a war of acquisition.

Putin was answering a question from Russian reporter Pavel Zaubin and his comments were shown on Russian state TV.

Zelenskiy, who has said that some of his grandfather’s brothers were killed in the Holocaust, has repeatedly dismissed as false Russian accusations that he has supported neo-Nazis in Ukraine. (Reporting by Reuters; Editing by Kevin Liffey Editing by Alex Richardson)


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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a russian I can say that Putin is definitely crazy. He always was crazy a littlw due to his KGB past, you know, some tendency to overestimate impact of special servies and conspiracy. But I guess that the last drop was a covid pandemic when he sitted alone in bunker for a year in a total isolation. He totally out of mind. I do not think that one should seriously look at his speeches. Also, as a native russian speaker I watched a video interview and can proove that the translation is cirrect. He really said it...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope you guys can find a way to get a better national government soon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you. I hope too. But now it is not safe to be being in Russia and trying to get better government... So, for myself I just decided to leave the country. I'm not ready to risk my safety and safety of my family trying to protest against Putin. One can say that I'm a coward, but for me it change nothing: I prefer to be a healthy free coward instead of tortured hero in prison. To be honest, my only hope is that he die soon, there are a lot of rumors about his health problem, some cancer.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

You know what they say about Russian history... "And then it got worse"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

who's next in line when Putin dies? hopefully they can prevent the country from collapsing like it did a few decades ago

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Next in line is whatever treacherous bastard that manages to wrangle power for himself.

The only thing worse than a bastard like Putin is a smart and competent bastard.

But still, I somehow hope Russia manages to find a path toward a competent and stable democracy somehow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey. I assume you live in Russia. How is life so far in Russia since the war started? Has it significantly changed for you? Would love to hear your story!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left the country after the war. So, for me it changed significantly... But I'm a wrong person to ask how is it now. In my understanding it is bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Understandable. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Zelenskiy was elected in 2019, during Trump's misrule. We all know who Trump was taking orders from.

I love how absolutely desperate that makes Putin look.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You are clearly mistaken. The CIA actually keeps millions of clones in underground bunkers all over the world, and then tunneled them deep underground in order to smuggle them into Kyiv for the maiden protests.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Ladies, Gentlemen, and Others... Apparently you can, in fact, make this shit up.

What a world.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've been pointing out that Zelenskyy is Jewish since the beginning. You know, for day five-hundred-and-something of the three day special military operation, that's a pretty good comeback. /S

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right? This gave me such deja vu, I had to double check it wasn't an accidental repost from back then..

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever he's smoking he's gotta either share or quit hitting it for a bit

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he shared with musk no?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol I think Putin's mental illness has just leveled up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, typical of Soviet-era trick of "say one thing, mean another" confusion bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which part of just saying dumb fucking shit is soviet in nature?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

"neo nazi's pursuing genocide"

Wow, project much Putin?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, anyone who is taking anything Russia says about this conflict seriously is very clearly not operating in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Um, sure Vlad, that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

He is right! Nothing is beyond them! They are monsters! They even put a lunatic on the top of the Russian government in order to destroy Russia! And it is working! Wake up, sheepliks!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not justifying it, but the use of the word Nazi seems a lot different in Russia compared to the West. The West is going to use the word Nazi to describe authoritarian governments that engage in genocide. Of the two belligerents in the war, that describes Russia a lot more than Ukraine.

In contrast, I feel like the word Nazi in Russia is used more to describe an existential threat to Russia. Nazis invaded Russia, and Ukraine is a threat on par with Russia.

So the home audience hears this and hears that Putin is attacking Russia's enemies, and a lot of others are confused as Putin's Russia seems a lot more fascist and Nazi-like.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nazi in Russia refers to the forced displacement, prosecution, and rape of ethnic Russians and Communists by the invading Nazi forces throughout the war. The Nazis had a much different view on Western Europeans than they did on Slavs and Jews and Communists, so is this surprising at all?

Whereas the West was treated more or less as though under military occupation (see: France, Norway), the goal of the Nazis during Barbarossa was the extermination of the Slavic peoples.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Russia is the invading force here...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No way is Ukraine anywhere near as threatening as the third reich.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right. But, the use of the word Nazi is going to play differently to Russia than it will to Europe or the USA.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes otherwise I agree with your point. The Nazi comparison was quite baffling to most in the West but when viewed from the Russian perspective on history it has a certain warped logic.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There were literal swatika wearing Nazis among other far right groups leading the 2014 Euromaiden protests that kicked out the Russian backed president in Ukraine. The leftist groups were anti-protest and also anti-government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everything is about you, Russia. Do they really define WWII by someone attacking them? That’s ignoring a lot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For context, WWII in Russia is known as The Great Patriotic War.

Granted the USSR took the lion's share of casualties and Nazi smashing (with Western support) but yeah, they've reduced it to *their * war against the Axis forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And conveniently forget the USSR was allied with Nazi Germany while they both invaded poland.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Putin is a dumb fuck, more news at 11

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I...

Wut?

What now?

My mind just gets stuck in an endless loop with this dumb gymnastics

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how long is this moron gonna last after another mobilization attempt?
I am betting 2 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you wanna be supremely dissapointed on how long the worst of the worst can last after they commit horrible atrocities, look up pol pot. Assuming this man will pay consequences for his actions anytime in the near future is, unfortunately, very naïve.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... ad hominem? That's all you have, Putin?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

He didn't even mention the donated Swedish pickled herring biological weapons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I guess it's just a "happy accident" that it works to that effect, even if it was never intended.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

'that sneaky [...] only got his job by being [...] and was put in charge by the cabal running western society' is classic denazification rhetoric

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