GarbageShoot

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The classic one is, of course, "ACAB," but I've already gotten into these arguments so I will spare you reading too much on it. Let it suffice to say all US cops are bastards (or, you know, they serve an especially malignant bastard function), all German cops, all UK cops, etc. But, to find a diplomatic way of getting this across, the security patrols deployed by the Panthers were also cops if that word has a non-moral meaning.

I think, and this is why I even bring ACAB up, that it gives people something to rally around and maybe even encouraged them to see things differently, and they get attached to it as essentially a dogma without seeing the analysis that produced it (or justified it, in any case). The slogan becomes the analysis. It becomes what exists in place of having reasons for what you believe, even when good reasons are out there!

I don't know how to do dividing lines

I think it's pretty funny when some asshole chud gets fired or injured or whatever and someone comments "another kkrakkka down, unlimited genocide on the first world". The humor comes from the absurdity, that there is no such genocide in the works and the subject in this case usually isn't even dead. It seems like a perfectly fine meme.

So then a huge hurricane hits Florida, we have hundreds of normal, mostly poor people dying and people are saying this and, when someone goes "Hey, that's not right" they double down. [I was busy when this was happening, this isn't me complaining about being dog piled or whatever]

The weird thing about it is that I thought it was 100% a joke, but some people got attached to the phrase in a way that reminds me of people going "ACAB means ACAB" as though it's anything other than an unhinged exclamation that is funny because it's unhinged. I don't know how this happened, but I am forced to conclude that the way the meme was treated up to this point was conditioning people in a detrimental way. Or maybe they were always bloodthirsty chauvinists, but that seems like the greater leap to me.

Of course there were a couple of pathetic, cowardly losers in the mix saying "Oh, don't take it so seriously, it's a shitposting site". Those people I direct to 4chan. Antisocial behavior is antisocial behavior, and calling it meaningless to escape that it does have a meaning and that meaning is quite negative is contemptible behavior that should be rejected by the policy of any space that claims to be leftist.

Anyway, I don't really have a call to action or anything, except perhaps: Oppose Slogan Worship.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The one is not the other

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Frequently they blame ""communist"" politicians for letting the immigrants in

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I see. I neglected an interpretation and it was important. So if someone says, for example and not necessarily making assertions about the OOP, that "I'm trans because I was born with a micropenis and that fuckin' sucks," your internal response would be "This person is trans, but doesn't understand why they are trans." [Or that it is likely that they don't understand, and see what I said before about this implying it is true of some hypothetical people]

Is that a more fair representation of your view?

(I put this under the wrong comment at first somehow, but also I was partly using information from that one)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We're talking about an imagined person whose internality we have access to. If you acknowledge that, within the assumptions of your own ideology, there could be people that are "likely not trans", that means essentially that there is an array of different possible stipulated people and some of them are trans, but most of them aren't. Another way to put it is that, if you said you were "80% sure" that someone wasn't trans that means, depending on certain unknown variables that actually determine the truth of that guess, there are 20 possible worlds where they are trans and 80 where they aren't.

All this to say, based on what you expressed ideologically originally and even in your refutation, it is consistent to stipulate a self-identified trans person who you identify as not trans, even if you would never tell a person that in real life (out of respect, because it involves information you can't access, etc.). Does that make sense? I feel like I got a little bogged down in adjectives, but I felt obliged to explain myself further given the "Excuse you".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

You can't tell in the movie but in the script, all his lines and stage directions are written in greentext.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (37 children)

This very well may be fake, but it's also entirely possible to identify as trans for any number of reasons. You might say such a person is "not really" trans but, supposing that is true, there's no contradiction between that and some person who doesn't have such ideological convictions having a thought process like you see in this image and acting on it.

That said, I agree that it's probably fake, though I'm not as confident that the poster is a cis impersonator.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That's a limp deflection. Is it really so difficult to not go around mocking people for typing errors like a 13-year-old?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Go back to Reddit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Whatever problems you might have with low-effort digital art, the two are not remotely comparable.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Such a pathetic thing to say. Even if what they were saying was true, why does the show need to be about the election? Isn't it, like, a political comedy show? Aren't there other political issues to talk about? idk, I hate South Park anyway, but it seems like a remarkably stupid thing to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh sure, Owen was mistaken from the outset because his genuinely more-efficient way of running things isn't going to be as profitable to the owning class, meaning that no amount of advocacy can escape the gravitational pull of the profit motive dragging it down into the mire of human misery. I was just talking about what he did that ruined his career from a practical standpoint by drawing the ire of the bourgeoisie, which was not his company town model alone.

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