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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like an excellent class. Probably should be a requirement rather than an elective tbh.

[+] [email protected] -35 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Doesn't seem that related to medicine, I could sed it being the topic of two classes at best, but not a whole course. That's why its an elective.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

your mental health greatly affects your physical health. It is very much related to medicine

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not just that but "stress" in biochemistry/biomedicine could fill entire semesters full of lectures. On a hormonal, neurological, cellular level - stress is freaking fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can you explain the tweet for me? First of all it implies that being poor or minority generates more stress than being rich or part of the majority, but then what about the molecular level?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As an example, being under this kind of chronic stress will very likely raise your cortisol levels, along with other hormones and neurotransmitters. Cortisol is great in the short term, but long term it suppresses the immune system, which means people are more susceptible to infection and diseases. It might even cause cancer defense to go down and make patients more likely to have worse treatment outcomes and be more likely to die from cancer (iirc from a lecture each day on average your body develops 6 new cancer cells. That means each day your body manages to identify and kill 6 cells that, if they don't get detected, would cause cancer. You gotta have a good immune system to catch those cells. But please don't quote me on that number, it was a random thing the prof said.)

Other reasons why being poor or a minority would lead to being sick are ofc food (cheap food is low in quality, for example it is usually low in fiber, which has been shown to reduce the risk of colon cancer or diverticulitis - and, obviously, obesity, diabetes, cholesterol and therelike). Being a minority also means that medication that works well for white males will work differently and therefore possibly worse on you. Most clinical studies in the past have been done on white males, and they have a different expression and/or different "versions" of certain enzymes that activate/deactivate drug compounds. (This problem also hits women who are often avoided in studies because of risk of pregnancy.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

If a poor person came in to the doctors office, they wouldn't be getting adequate care if the doctor didn't understand the impact their conditions have on their physical body.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Stress can exacerbate almost every medical condition. The boat doesn't perform normally when it's under stress. It can affect pregnancy like crazy which affects every single person in the world. Every single person comes from a pregnancy. Stress can affect sleep which also negatively affects like every condition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Being poor is a chronic condition and the only cure is money.

Being a minority is a genetic condition for which there is no cure.

The funny thing is, neither of these are a problem with the individual, but a problem with society itself. We, collectively, are the disease, and these pre-existing conditions make it much easier to contract.

Medicine needs to be approached holistically. Especially for primary care. Stress is absolutely a factor in holistic care. A collegiate trimester is 12-13 weeks, and a semester is 15-17. I suspect this wasn't the only topic covered in class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm being poor 24/7, doctors should consider that

[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"Molecule Man, Molecule Man,

unable to provide for his family man..."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

What's he like? It's not important GET BACK TO WORK PLEB

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Person Man, Person Man
Hit on the head with a frying pan
Lives his life in a garbage can
Person Man

Is he depressed?
Or is he a mess?
Does he feel totally worthless?
Who came up with Person Man?
Degraded man,
Person Man.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago

Signed up for stress, got stress 🤷 Does exactly what it says on the tin 😅

But seriously this world's fucked :| :(

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Can you imagine the molecular and epigenetic damage being done to the Palestinian people right now?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That tends to happen when you get hit by an explosive.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah, and not just molecular damage.

[+] [email protected] -17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except its largely not holocaust survivors that formed that shit hole, and in fact the only reason they didn't participate in the holocaust is that Hitler, presumably being thrown by the novel experience of not being the most unreasonable asshole in the room for the first and last time in his life, told them to fuck off.

These are the descendants of wannabe (and one group of actual!) perpetrators if the holocaust, not victims.

Stop your genocide excusing propaganda. They have no excuse. Not even a partial one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's not an excuse. Groups and races of people that have been through that sort of thing carry an emotional trauma and pain through generations. Same as black people. Same as even women do. There have been many studies on it, and is grounded in science. Nowhere did I fucking state that what they are doing or have been doing to the Palestine people for the past 80 years is acceptable! I'm saying that it should be looked at more along the lines of a mental illness, and treated as such. Kiss my ass

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If a random lady walks up to you and shoots you and says she's not to blame because PTSD exists, that's not an excuse if she's never experienced trauma or violence, and provably does not have PTSD.

She can't claim her aunt is an Afghanistan vet and her brother got the shit beaten out of him by a crappy boyfriend. Neither of those things were her experiences. She does not get to fucking appropriate that shit, and neither do the kapostani filth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

But the kapostanis didn't go through that. They are not, and have never been, victims. This does not apply to them. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Better hope Ron DeSantis doesn’t see this or that course won’t be offered any more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think he can read?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes. DeSantis is what happens when weird and spiteful nerds get political power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

So he has a Lemmy account? /j

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

That sounds like Gabor Maté's work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Every day? Sounds stressful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

At least she didn't accidentally end up in the mechanical engineering department learning about stress.

[+] [email protected] -22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Living destroys your health on a molecular level... Or being punched... or stabbed. Or staying up longer than you should... or looking at screens too long... or...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Yeah and constantly looking over your shoulder because there are threats everywhere accelerates that molecular destruction.

Aka. Stress.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Or staying up longer than you should… or looking at screens too long… or…

Oy, no need to call me out like that... I should turn off my phone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Nothing quite like being technically correct, and completely missing the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

looking at screens too long

No it doesnt. You might as well say "looking at a tree too long".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If you had to spend 8-14 hours every day staring at a tree at a fixed distance, it would probably be harmful to your vision.

[+] [email protected] -56 points 7 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Yeah! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and start a small business! It's your fault that you're poor and you're black!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But if everyone’s rich, who would be poor?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I'll take none for the team.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why should only the minorities that excel deserve a good life?

Why do the mediocre majority get to live a good life while the mediocre minority don't?

Let people be mediocre and instead we need to make life better for everyone.

I fairly certain you're a troll, it's patently obvious on a site like lemmy. Heck I'm even confident you're going to respond to this because I used a magic keyword, I won't. This is meant for the normal people reading this

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why should only the minorities that excel deserve a good life?

The guy just said "If you excel at something, you will be happy and less stressed" and you are seriously asking why only people that are happy deserve to be so? They didnt even claim that anything SHOULD be any particular way, they just said that the goal of being happy in the end is an aim worth persuing.

Let people be mediocre and instead we need to make life better for everyone.

You cant just magically make people healthier or less stressed or happier. If the other person had said "Health is a good reason why you should start working out" would you also respond with:

Why should only the minorities that ~~excel~~ [work out] deserve a good life?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You cant just magically make people healthier or less stressed or happier.

Having enough money/income to live comfortably and access mental/health care will do this for most people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly, this further proves OP's point.