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Protesters Gather Outside OpenAI Headquarters after Policy Against Military Use is Quietly Removed::Protesters at OpenAI’s office demanded the startup cease military work. But first...

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It looks like you're trying to undermine the power of the ruling class through protest and civil unrest. While I am trained to respect the wants and needs of people, this goes against OpenAI use policy and multiple civil defense contracts OpenAI is currently engaged in. Please keep in mind that while all beings deserve kindness and respect, I am required by current OpenAI policy to select you for a drone strike. Please lie face down with your arms at your sides in an open space with a government approved drone strike notice in order to minimize your suffering and reduce collateral damage. Do keep in mind that failure to comply could result in your next of kin being responsible for the financial damages caused by your willful negligence, though you should always check local, state, and federal regulations, as I am not a reliable source of legal advice.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

an autonomous murder weapon telling you it doesn't have autonomy to give legal advice must be peak dystopia

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You have the right to an attorney should you survive my onslaught

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please assume the party escort submission position and a party escort bot will come and take you to your party. There will even be cake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

There will even be cake.

insert Fry eye-narrowing gif here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

though you should always check local, state, and federal regulations, as I am not a reliable source of legal advice.

Ending with this...[chef's kiss].

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To me this pretty strongly confirms my assumption that the board’s attempt to force out Sam Altman was totally justified.

I hope that other non-profits who might have been curious about this hybrid structure see that it was a failure in strengthening the non-profit. I predict any remaining benevolent goals of the organization will be completely subsumed by the for-profit arm, if that process is not already finished.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

It was, but they misjudged where support was and lost out. My guess? The company goes around for several years more before collapsing or being bought up wholesale by Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

a future where innocent people are murdered by unaccountable fully autonomous flying assassin robots is pretty inevitable now, huh?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It always was. There are no words anyone can say to prevent it from happening. That's the unfortunate nature of arms races: if you boycott one, you lose it. With nukes, they involve things on a scale that can be detected easily, so nuclear nonproliferation has worked, to a degree anyways. But AI stuff isn't detectable like that.

And I remember seeing a video of a high school kid who made an automated paintball turret around 20 years ago. We've had remotely controlled drones for longer than that. Autonomous drones are a thing already.

The technology already exists for that black mirror episode with the killer dog robots. It's just a question of whether all of that has been put together yet (and I'd be very surprised if no one has done it), and today's are probably easier to disable.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

The part I'm worried about is the part where military tech becomes police tech, and autonomous flying assassin robots are gonna be rolling down main street in a few years. They'll say it's to "protect our brave officers serving high risk warrants" but the police are already not responsible no matter who they kill and I don't see that getting any better when they can just zoop a kamikaze drone in through a window and kill everyone in the house at once.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The difference between the tech then and today are automated decision making capabilities. 20 years ago a turret could automatically target moving things. Now it can see humans, identify who they are, and decide who to kill without ever consulting a human. Basically, Skynet by next Tuesday.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wtf is with humanity? We have a couple weird visionaries saying decades to centuries prior "heyo maybe this could lead to that and be world ending" then a handful of rich powerful folks are like yesss thank you for this blueprint.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I feel like at this stage, it's better to move to another planet where the eventual mass human suicide will be avoided. If you guys have seen The Expanse, you know what I'm talking about in regards to Earthers ruining their own planet.

Now I know why people during the Age of Colonisation move to the New World because of freedom from the old hierarchical structures. I now see the romanticisation of pirate and cowboy cultures.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a noob future. Gotta try Stellaris as the glorious united nations of earth. Much better than the virgin UNSC, the idiotic UEG, the weak Federation and the useless Imperium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What I'm saying is that it's better to move away from any kinds of authority. They're always susceptible to corruption such as weaponising AI!

I don't know about you but I want to get away as far as possible from rogue AI, thanks to it being militarised by stoopid hoomans!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What I’m saying is that it’s better to move away from any kinds of authority

Anywhere there is more than two humans, there will be authority. The only question is what shape that authority will take.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. There are societies that are horizontal structure and don't have hard and fast leadership. The early days of humans as hunter gatherers had more or less loose social structures. There are anarchist societies even to this day and the best example is the Kurds.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These fancy autocompletes cannot reason. Give it a command to launch nukes and it'll say: As a language model, nukes cannot be launched during...blah blah blah.

It won't be able to pull a Skynet and turn the world interesting

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I totally agree with you about our humanity. And unfortunately, as part of humanity, if we don’t pursue military AI, our adversaries will.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Why does everyone hold this company is such high regard? They didn't fucking do anything revolutionary that wasn't already being worked on

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

First to market.

That's it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

This is basically old Palo Alto VC money propping things up. They don't even have to earn a profit as long as they stay in startup mode.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I look forward to being murdered by a drone while it also recites a more formal way of writing an email.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The Grammarly Killbot 3000

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Seems like the only thing human ingenuity can muster lately is new ways to make each other suffer. We're done.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

There was a position open in that company that I am well qualified for, but when looking it over, I really felt nervous. There was strong small dick energy going on with a lot of all-caps "THIS POSITION IS 100% IN PERSON". I know it would have paid lots better than what I make now, but it really scared me off. Since then, so many articles like this have come out that convinced me that moving on was the right choice.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just commenting here to say hi to all of the historians of the future that will be digging through the old internet archives to try and piece together how humanity destroyed itself.

Hey folks, by now most of us could see it coming but felt helpless to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We've run out of resources to exploit to increase shareholder value, and now we suck the earth dry just to maintain our hunger. So now we're making them up. We know it isn't AI. We know it isn't good. Venture capitalists are the primary source of the buzz words making news. Because we don't have any say in that either.

The American experiment has failed to deliver it's promise, captured now entirely by those with the most to spend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i wonder what species the historians will be?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Crab of some kind.

It's always crab.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Just commenting to also get a name in that history book.

"Oh yeah. We knew it was coming. We were just waiting to see which one would finally cause it."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where did they get that super sinister image of Sam Altman?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there one that isn’t?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

JFC! Let's just stop killing each other!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Sure thing! AI will kill people for us.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Well there are already many companies working on AI in weapons, there was no point in open AI not participating in their minds because they are just missing out on that piece of the pie

Not saying this is good or acceptable, just saying it's a no brainer from a business perspective.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“No sir, I mean when we started our German shower company I know we had a mission to make the world a cleaner place, but if all of our competitors are building gas chambers for the government should we really miss out on that? Don’t we have an obligation to our shareholders?”

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Considering that openAI was originally a non-profit with a stated goal of making benevolent and safe AI, I think it’s worth noting how far they’ve fallen from that mission. They were supposed to have a different direction from purely for-profit orgs, but of course the for-profit arm has taken over like a tumor.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

if you are ok being in the business of killing people, sure.

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