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It's kind of ironic to me that Linux is all for free and open source, but still uses a proprietary platform, and a horrible one at that. Before the fediverse, I'd understand, but now, there is no excuse whatsoever.

I understand that we can't just get up and leave everything proprietary behind all at once, since we have iPhones and Android phones. We all use proprietary software of some form, but I am of the mindset of using the least amount of proprietary possible.

I will ALWAYS look for FOSS first. I also want to make it as hard as possible for any corporation to track me. They'll probably still be able to track me, but I'm not going without a fight.

I could say the same about the Linux kernel using GitHub, but I understand how massive of an undertaking it would be to move the whole kernel to another platform. I'm sure there are other factors, too. Anyway, I just wanted to start a discussion and hear people's thoughts.
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Because this here is for support. That there is for evangelism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly man, of all the communities we have here on lemmy, linux community getting bigger is not what we need. We need all the rest, stuff like tf2, csgo, gaming specific stuff, all the other niche communities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Granted, we're gonna end up with /r/sinkpissers. Lol

All seriousness, there's a lot of neat communities I wish would find their way here. Heck, I wish there was a way to just export the history over so old archived data wasn't lost forever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago) (1 children)

we're gonna end up with /r/sinkpissers. Lol

In all seriousness, you really don't want a mass exodus from Reddit to Lemmy instances. It's better that it's slowly so growth is managed but even more important, user quality is maintained!

When the Digg exodus happened, Reddit literally overnight went from a considered discussion board to full of ascii art, 1 line shit witty or pun comments, lyric threads and the signal to noise ratio went to shit.

On top of that there were constant stability issues that were compounded by all the thickos constantly hammering F5.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

100% with you on that one.

I really enjoy the discussions here, even if it's a little slower paced sometimes. (And I find that to be a feature!)

I've come to feel that technology is for anyone , but not necessarily for everyone , at least, not all at once.

It seems like a series of Eternal Septembers are usually coaxed along by corporate interests to spur mass-adoption for ~~fun and~~ profit, and the existing communities that get flooded tend to suffer for it, because there's no time to support or acclimate the newbies to the community, and they bring their existing assumptions with them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

because Sadly Reddit is bigger then Lemmy and hopefully Lemmy will grow more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am with you 100% on the reddit aspect but have to acknowledge that any person can make their own choices. Eventually, a platform with much longer history will continue being successful, if only due to inertia alone. However, one more big mistake from reddit may be enough for the FOSS subs to migrate to this platform. As for the Linux kernel, are you sure it is hosted on github? Or is it only a backup?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's hosted on kernel.org and the one on github is a mirror. Github didnt exist when the kernel was made initially. Or git

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I think it's a uniquely good topic to have in both places. I first learned about Linux on reddit in Chrome on a Windows machine. It really helped lower my barrier to entry to chat with people on a platform that was accessible to my skill level at that time. But now I'm really glad there are nice foss places to talk about it as well.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It would definitely be nicer to see the Linux community grow here.

But hey. I'm on Linux and I'm here with y'all. :)

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're talking as if "The linux community" was one single bunch of people.

Reddit isn't Linux HQ and nor is Lemmy, nor is Facebook. #linux still active on IRC too, but not there either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

100%. I'm relatively new to Linux and to the western world as a whole. 😅

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Better to live in utopia and have ambassadors to shitholes to liberate others than just live in utopia alone.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The kernel on GitHub is just a mirror - the primary source is on kernel.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Torvalds wrote git for the Linux kernel, and then GitHub popped up because most other projects couldn't handle the decentralization. Interestingly to OP's frustration, they were using a proprietary VCS before that, and people were just as frustrated about that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git#History

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago

Some of us did leave, that's why you see us here

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if they did... Reddit would just find new mods and reopen it. They wouldn't let it remain abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This kind of answers my question. lol. I didn't think about it that way. I thought they can just bring it all here and that one gets ~~closer~~ closed or something. I forgot how reddit works.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone who needed to use the jellyfin discord for assistance setting it up, moving from a larger, community readable platform to a platform that is non searchable externally, and more importantly. If someone wants to learn how to linux. Making them learn how to Lemmy ADDITIONALLY is gonna HURT. this is ofc ignoring the reality of the fact that communities can exist in multiple places, and assuming they'd just go read only or smth like that. Jellyfin support was ONLY able to be provided because they're matrix interconnects with discord, a software i can use! (I've since made a element account while watching media on my jellyfin server XD)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean Lemmy threads aren't indexed by search engines ? So if we move everything to lemmy there goes the only way to find good info online which is adding "reddit" to the search bar ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

That is incorrect on my part, I've since learned that lemmy IS searchable, but because of much lower density just doesn't show up hence the initial poster I referred tos confusion. Search link for reference

It's a link to a Google search!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Linux is ubiquitous, it's everywhere, even on Reddit, even under your bed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Also it was on the Mars with the Ingenuity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

If you have a Smart Bed^TM^, Linux might even be in your bed.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago

There's two reasons why r/linux is popular on Reddit:

  1. Reddit is popular
  2. r/linux is popular
[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)
  • Not everyone that uses Linux is against proprietary software or only uses FOSS.
  • There are people that just heard of Linux, are just trying it out, or have an issue, and already use Reddit, or is what the search engine points them to go for help, or to ask questions.
  • Reddit has a lot more reach for the common people than any other platform at the moment, there are still people that prefer to ask on Reddit, than go to a specific forum or another platform to ask (If I remember right, it still happens with some apps like Jellyfin that moved out of Reddit, but people still ask there)

These are just a few of the reasons that come to my mind.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Also institutional inertia is difficult to overcome in general.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an example I'm on Linux for a decade now but I also use proprietary services. I use Jellyfin and Netflix, Vim and Jetbrains IDEs, Chess.com instead of Lichess, WhatsApp instead of Matrix.

Sometimes the value proposition does it for me, sometimes it's the network effect. I've ditched reddit because I like Lemmy more but I can see how someone wants to stay in touch with their niche communities that don't really exist on Lemmy. Probably some people use both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How comes that Vim is proprietary? Jetbrain offers community versions which are afaik open source too, so you can look at the source code, you do not need to pay or agree to an EULA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It's not, Vim is GNU. I listed some of them as "I use open source and proprietary" things. Jellyfin is open source also.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Linux isnt only for Foss enjoyers. Plus its good to have the linux community on reddit to help people bring attention to linux. If they move it here it will be even harder to join the community.

Think of /r/linux as a gateway to the world of Foss

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You are not wrong. But there are things you can do to make a point. Make Reddit as a 2nd class citizen and drive people to lemmy, mastodon and the others. Like add posts with no comments, just relay bot, ... Make it clear.

Same with GitHub, it's mirror to my Gitea instance. You can see stuff but you have to move somewhere else to contribute and report issues. Not a terrible thing to use these proprietary services and yet make them 2nd class citizens.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Many of them are single-issue Linux users and don't concern themselves with FOSS philosophy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe it's the same normal human inconsistency as those of who support public health care and basic income, but ironically still buy stuff from capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well tbf maby things i need i con only get by buying from a capitalist

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

The mods there were crap back in the day. Keep them on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bet the Facebook Linux community is bigger than ours.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How should we know? Ask them, not us.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

But Lemmy users are obviously smarter, so it’s better to ask them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shitpost your heart out and maybe people will stay when they visit to observe the train wreck that is your life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Why should it leave? It's good to be omnipresent! You have another linux community here and in many other places.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Um, subreddits remain because they still have subscribers. That's all.

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