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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is a funny clip and an accurate depiction of NYC congestion.

But, I live in a major city and we make way for ambulances. If it's this bad we'll end up with civilians running red lights or cops on motorbikes to unfuck gridlock.

I myself ran a red light last week in rush hour to GTFO when I hear sirens. Just turn on my hazards, slow roll into the red light. Cars were already stopping for me so I was safe, then pulled over.

This is really just making fun of NYC traffic and how fucked it is. The delivery makes it extra funny since we rarely get such an animated German on the front page.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I speak perfect english but still use „ja”, ja?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~Das ist der Weg~~

This is the way, ja?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I get imense stress from having an ambulance behind me even if there's plenty of room to pass on the side. Immediately plotting where to go if it needs to go exactly where I am.
I can't imagine having an ambulance behind you and going 'Meh, I'm driving here.'

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

This happened to me once. It was a main road with heavy traffic. I pulled over to the right to let the ambulance pass, but because of traffic, I was effectively sitting on the right lane. Apparently the ambulance wanted to move to the right lane because they were gonna turn right at the corner up ahead. I felt like an asshole because to everyone else on the road, it looked like I intentionally blocked the ambulance. And the siren blaring right behind you while the driver is blasting the horn is very stressful.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

nyc is a crazy city

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

In case you wanna see a "RETTUNGSGASSE!!!" (= rescuing lane) in action this clip is what it looks like ideally. If traffic slows down for whatever reason or if there are sirens in the distance drivers are supposed to assume this formation pre-emptively and misusing it is a crime.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's how it's supposed to work in the US too. Maybe it depends on the state but in MN at least it's illegal to fail to pull over for emergency vehicles. If you see any emergency vehicle on the road running with lights on then you are supposed to stop and pull off to the side so that they can have the whole road.

The video in the OP looks nuts to me too. I've never seen people fail to pull over for an emergency vehicle in my area.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

This is how it is in Manhattan when it’s busy. It’s not so much failing to pull over so much as there is nowhere to go.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

This is a very NYC phenomenon, everywhere else I’ve ever been and lived in the US moves out of the way for emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on, I’ve seen both issues where there is nowhere to go and times where people just don’t care, every time I’m in NYC I hope to not need medical attention

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So I actually experienced one of these on 64W between VA Beach and Richmond. It was amazing how everyone including myself just instinctively moved to the sides of the road. It's not a hard concept it just takes cooperation.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You are being rescued. Please do not resist.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Love this. Who says the Germans have no humour.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Mostly the French

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So why not put paramedics on a e-bike, so they can actually arrive at the scene first. It’s not like the patient gets put into the ambulance immediately on arrival. Might as well have someone take care of the patient before the ambulance arrives. Just put a e-bike in the back of the ambulance or rack it on the front.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shitty solution to a shitty problem in my opinion. Quite often patients are indeed put into the ambulance immediately. Ambulances also have tons of medical equipment, none of which you can fit on a bike, obviously. Then there's the question of paramedic safety, especially given how many road accidents there are in the US. Plus, that would be a major cost for healthcare providers. Instead of 2 paramedics, you'd need 3 or 4, since they can't go solo, again due to safety concerns. Overall this isn't something we should be looking for alternative solutions to. You can't keep making workarounds for systemic issues, like horrible road/traffic design or society being severely uneducated.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Feeling confused. Why can't the ambulance go through the small gaps between sidewalk. In my country ambulance drivers drive like its GTA.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

theres people on it? Like regularly?

Also i doubt an ambulance would even fit in most places, chances are it's going to get stuck, immediately.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwGd3QWgTLs&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

For contrast: a video of a more congested street in Paris 17 years ago. The situations aren't completely comparable: bigger emergency vehicle, smaller other vehicles, smaller street with less options to get out of the way, ... One other major difference and the reason I'm posting this, is that 30 seconds into the video, you can see that most drivers have moved to the sides of the road AHEAD of the firetruck and that they are holding still while waiting on the firetruck to pass them. The street + path are less than ideal and there isn't really enough room, so the truck is still not going very fast, but it's at least able to keep moving. By moving to the sides, the drivers also blocked in that smaller firetruck that was coming from the side street, so that's going to cause some confusement after the big one has passed.

The reason that that NYC ambulance is completely stuck in traffic, isn't because of space, because there is plenty compared to that Parisian street, but it's the drivers who are not creating a path. It's not an infrastructure problem, it's something that can be taught + encouraged if there is a political will to make a change.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Where I live in Canada traffic moves for anything EMS related with lights(other than a tow truck unless of course they have an EMS escort). We pull up on to sidewalks, curbs, and anything really to clear a path. Heck I've seen people put their vehicle into a snow bank or a ditch to get out of the way. I guess we're of the mindset that others will do the same for us should we be the ones awaiting EMS to arrive or deliver us to an ER.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is the kind of culture you get and deserve when you allow corporations to control your country and culture

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not just corporations. It's the individual over the collective. And that is just the nature of certain societies, specifically more competitive societies. In India for example, the mindset of everyone in traffic is 'me over others' - fuck everyone else, i grab what space I can get. If I don't, the next fucker will. Like if it starts raining, your 1 hour trip is now 3 hours, not 1.5 hours because there will be a jam at every intersection in the city. There are just so many people on the road and infrastructure (and society / government at large) that hasn't lent itself to cooperation but rather competition. It becomes their mindset, it becomes everyone's mindset. That is why many from that region turn right politically. I bet it's the same for many Latin countries.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I've seen roads so congested in NYC that they literally cannot get through. Saw a firetruck honk for a solid 5 minutes before getting to move anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

There’s no place for anyone to move to. The congestion is such that you cannot get out of the way. The Van Wyck alone will slow an ambulance to 3-5mph because of traffic. You cannot get out of the way if there’s no place to go!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

As if the usa is the only country in the world with congested rush hour traffic. I've been in streets that were way more tightly packed + chaotic than this and people would still clear a path for vehicles with sirens. The emergency vehicle would only be able to go 20 to 30 kmh without a motorcycle escort, but that's still significantly faster than what we're seeing here.

What we're seeing in this video, is that (some) vehicles that are directly in front of the ambulance move out of the way, but vehicles that are a tiny bit further ahead, don't even try. If a vehicle that is directly in front of the ambulance can move out of the way, then a vehicle that is 30 places ahead, is also able to move out of the way, but they don't even try ... What should happen is that as soon as drivers hear a siren, they should start looking for where it's coming from and then clear a path, and drivers should also especially not be driving into the path that others are clearing. Instead it seems like these drivers wait till the siren is right behind them and only then some start to move out of the way.

Looking for excuses in American exceptionalism reads like a case of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". This particular problem is something that can be easily improved upon by a public awareness campaign and some light fines for those that keep obstructing after the campaign has been running for some time. But what's obviously even easier than that, is finding an excuse to continue doing nothing about the problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Part of the problem is that the "rugged individualism" that America was founded on also equates to entitlement. The last generations that truly had it rough, where a community spirit was important to surviving are dying or gone, and no one has learned their lesson. Yet.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's congestion in German cities too. The point isn't to drive away. During rettungsgasse, nobody goes anywhere. They just make way by stopping to the sides.

The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You should see major cities in latin america if you think that's bad. In many countries it's like they don't even care.

The US has no excuse though, we should be way, way better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Were all the "ja"s an affectation or do modern Germans just ja that much?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Definitely affectation. I suspect the strong German accent is as well. His vocabulary is too good for it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wenn die Polizei vorbeifährt, ja?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

It took a sinister turn right at the end...

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