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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of why I moved to the city was wanting to escape the car based nightmare of the suburbs. Couldn't do much of anything without a car or an extremely risky walk.

I could have walked a mile to the train station with no sidewalks , and then paid $20 for a ticket into the city on a train that stops at like 10pm, but all of that sucks. I stayed inside and played a lot of video games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$20 a ticket??

Yikes.

What city?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I looked it up, it's $15 currently. Suburban NJ to Manhattan.

$15 is still kind of a lot when you're a kid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Damn, I feel blessed then. Australia's a pretty high cost of living, but our trains (+ the other modes of public transport) are like half that price in Melbourne Australia, and you can travel as much as you like. All day. Almost anywhere in the state where trains, busses and trams go.

(Or at leat most routes)

We are still very car centric though, by international standards.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I hate when nature is absent. It's not just urban centers. Large suburban parking lots with no trees are a kind of hell for me.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the US, compare a city like Houston, TX to a city like Portland, OR. Seems like two different planets.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You don't need to even travel. Compare downtown to Katy. Houston has plenty of nice parts with tons of nature, they just also have 50 square mile cookie cutter ranch house subdivisions.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

bruh same. everytime i have to ride through suburbs im just like damn this is so depressing and ugly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I like urban centers even when they're relatively devoid of nature. What I don't like is when nature is pointlessly absent. A bunch of tall buildings providing living, working and recreational space efficiently to lots of people? Excellent. Asphalt to the horizon so that people can drive to Walmart and then drive to Applebee's? Soul-crushing.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why I want to move to the netherlands. Beautiful countryside, walkable cities. Shit, I could bike to nearby cities there if I wanted to.

I'll never be able to afford to leave the hellhole known as the usa, but damnit I'll dream.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I live in Norway. Growing up, some days in school were reserved for diverse activities. Some of my friends and I decided to bike to the swimming park in the city ~20 miles away. We didn't have to bike on car roads at all to get there, as bike lanes and good side paths lead us the whole way. Being able to get anywhere with a bike at the age of 14 is an amazing level of freedom.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Growing up in the 90s in the usa, movies and tv always showed kids riding around on their bikes and not coming home until dark. Where the hell did they go? To get from the suburbs into town would be 10-20 miles riding on the edge of the highway almost wherever you live. No shoulder, no bike lane, no nothing (I did this to get to work for about a year. it sucked, got hit by a truck twice in that time.)

Norway sounds great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Riding bikes was a fun activity. The point wasn't to go somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Riding around in the suburbs get old fast if you can't occasionally go more into the city or out into the countryside or to some other interesting place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I didn't feel like it ever got old, as a kid. I used to love riding down hills with my friends, with our feet off the pedals to see how fast we could go. Or we'd just ride aimlessly until we'd see some old building to explore, or an animal to try to catch, or a tree to climb, or an interesting person to talk to. I don't think I started feeling like we needed to be going "somewhere" until I was a teen. People aren't as nice about groups of teens riding around randomly.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

UK here, not perfect but we did have quite a few paths that either don't allow cars or don't have many so cycling around was pretty easy. Cars make people lazy. Many people I know will drive to avoid an 800m walk.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

samsies <3 Netherlands looks wayyy mor intrstng <3 <3 <3

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i know a place that looks extremely similar to that

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yeah, it's called america. Unless you zoom in on a liscense plate, you don't know WHAT state that is.

Well.....I guess it's not Hawaii. Besides that though.....

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

"I guess it's not Hawaii"

Meanwhile hawaii:

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

You’re not wrong, but if not for the massive billboards and the american branded vehicles- ive been to a number of cities in Europe and the UK that look like this or worse, with more traffic and more, much larger buildings….(i currently live in Germany…) Also, places in Hawaii do look like this, too, unfortunately…mostly Maui and Hawai’i where there’s this much space, but Ohau’s south shore has been bad far a long time 😕

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd put down money on Southern California but those medians and a few other things are off.

Reverse image search is yielding Colerain, Ohio. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2016/10/24/the-talisman-of-colerain

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mine found me an old reddit thread that says Cincinnati

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I'm sure there's some Geoguessr player who can tell you where there's a Subway by a Hertz rental car across from a Speedway gas station, but a stroad with nationally available brands along it doesn't narrow things down much.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Stroads are the worst thing america ever invented.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

It's depressing seeing this in my city. Full groves of trees and fields ripped up and destroyed for another McDonald's and more and more apartments. It never ends does it ?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

sounds american

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Here in the Europes, I find curbside parking similarly depressing. Like, man, it should be a human right for kids to be able to go outside for playing ball. But you can't do that anywhere around here, because wherever there's kids, you can be sure that someone's parking their precious car nearby.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Only sort of related but The Florida Project is a great film that shows children playing in the dismal misery of Florida, much like in this photo.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've seen cops hassle people for walking down the median before.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's why I moved out into the forest to raise my boy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the same outside that was there in the 80's. Kids just do other things that aren't outside to be social, now. When I was a kid, if you wanted to play with other kids, you pretty much had to go be outside.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The same outside but even more car and distracted driver.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

And this could be anywhere in the USA, this could be California, Texas, Fucking Virginia or even Puerto Rico.

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