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Trying to escape Google's ecosystem, but past purchases keep pulling me back. #DeGoogled #GoogleLockIn #PrivacyStruggles #TechDilemma #FOSS #DigitalFreedom #AndroidAlternatives

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let go of the past, think for the future!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

P.S: You bought them, if the licence doesn't transfer you are in all right to pirate them. πŸ™„ There is a really good megathread on reddit. Hopefully someday they move to Fediverse. 🀞🏻

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Already done: lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Let's call it a five-finger discount. πŸ–οΈ

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

There is absolutely NOTHING I purchased on the play store that I need. Forget about replacing, i'm genuinely better off without it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Its not only in google purchases. Almost all digital assets are licensed based, you buy a license. You don't own anything and it fucking sucks. I therefore try to buy CDs of games or movies if possible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I use a ROM with microg and it actually works for all the things I need.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Stop with the hashtags, this isn't Twitter

Edit: I was wrong, my bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

iirc hashtags work for people using mastodon which lemmy.world federates with https://lemmy.world/instances
(could be wrong though)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Damn, you're right, my bad!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this isn't Twitter

But this is Mastodon (for some of us).

Lemmy and Mastodon share content, now.

This new nerd Internet is weird, but it's weird in cool ways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Damn, you're right, my bad!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Don't feel bad, this place is weird. It's a good weird. But weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Why do u have your purchases on Google?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Losing the ability to use my FELiCA chip is a big one for me. We use it for all kinds of things here in Japan, the most annoying of which being all kinds of things for verifying our identity by reading our My Number (and other) cards. It would also add up to an hour to any of my commutes to account for having to wait to buy tickets, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Not sure I understand. What do you buy from Google? If you want to degoogle, purchasing other stuff, or through channels other than the Play store is probably the simplest part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

~~Well, you don't need to worry too much now as Android has gone (or is going) close source which may affect rom devs, making a private phone even more difficult unless linux becomes mainstream as an alternative.~~

Update: Crap, missed a bit of the article

When new versions of Android are done, Google says it will continue to publish the source code in AOSP as always.

Please disregard my previous message and confusion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is wrong. Google will now share Android code after each new Android release, instead of releasing over time in real time. This is not uncommon in open source projects.

I’m not defending, or claiming that they won’t try to make Android closed source eventually in the future, but right now what you said isn’t correct

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

It's definitely step in the wrong direction and knowing Google, they will not stop here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

You are correct, I went back to the article and re-read the whole thing and found a sentence that I missed the first time. I have updated my original comment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hmm, I think that based on your comment, I should try to reconsider using a Linux-based phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Android is Linux FYI. The easiest thing to do is get a custom ROM with tracking and shit removed like lineage OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I can't shell out the money for another phone but I deleted my google account and replaced all the Google apps on my phone with FOSS apps. I don't have root access on my phone so I can't actually get rid of all of the Google apps. Best I can do until I need to replace my phone. Fortunately I never purchased anything from Google.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Find the least used paid service and look for an alternative. Start with replacing google drive.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You can install paid apps with aurora store if you already bought them on Google Play or you can download them modded from other sources :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

modded from other sources

True! But depending on the obscurity of the app it can be hard to find non-malware versions of such modded apps.

Scan your sus APKs, folks! Its fast and free -- Virustotal.com does a pretty good job πŸ™‚ I've caught a coupla apk Trojans there in the past!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Thanks for your info. πŸ˜„πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Its called a walled garden for a reason. Good luck dude. What's your plan?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Everyone saying you can't have Graphene and google store apps as a daily driver must have given up day one or had some important app that they needed. I'm about 10 months in now.

Graphene sandboxes all the apps, including google services. Yes, it'd be ideal to ditch google all together but reality makes that not feasible for a lot of people. Which is why graphene went through the effort to makes google services work.

You do have to download Google Services Graphenes own mini "app store". gmail 2FA works, play store/and restoring purchases works, Android Auto works, push notifications work.

It is true, some apps do not work on graphene. Mostly banking apps with extra security. There is a compatibility mode you can set for the app that reduces Graphene's restrictions on the app. Sometimes that works.

So in short, yes the meme is true. We are still locked into google one way or another, but at least we don't have to let them and other apps steal all our data.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

GrapheneOS is great for privacy. But the need for banking apps, working notifications, etc get in the way of me using it for a main device. Plus, there’s the dilemma that in order to fully avoid being tracked by Google, you need to setup a separate user profile on your device for anything that uses Google services (ie if you want to use the playstore even with fake google services). I just switched to using an iphone and use decentralized apps for the most part. But my secondary device has graphene

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Not sure what are you talking about. I'm using GraphaneOS as a daily driver and my banking apps work perfectly. The only 'banking' app that didn't work is Revolut but I easily found an alternative and switched. The apps for two actual banks I use work without issues. Notifications work fine, no issues at all. I don't have separate user profile, I have a work profile created with Shelter app. Everything just works. Work profile apps can't access contacts or files from main profile. Google services are only available in work profile.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's with all the hashtags? This isn't Twitter. Searching #FOSS for example shows a whole of not this with most seemingly only containing the '#' part or FOSS but no '#'.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Genuine question: What do you spend money on, on a phone? I've never bought anything myself and I don't know what I could even spend money on.

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