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As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?

Location:

  • 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
  • 50km to city center
  • 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
  • 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
  • 35km from a rich residential area
  • 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area

Access:

  • There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
  • There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
  • 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely

It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you're there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while

Ideas

  • Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
  • "Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions" In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I'd have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don't know what people will do when they're bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
  • Sadly location isn't touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
  • I've met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway

Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 minutes ago

I couldn't tell you what to do with it but if I move to europe I will work on your commune and help with whatever as long as you'll have me lol

25 decares is a lot of land, you could have an entire city there. If the land is viable for farming you could allot enough of it to produce whatever you would need to sustain the population of the property, and have the rest of the place developed into living spaces and recreational areas like you said. A sports park, little golf course, botanical gardens, animal sanctuaries. Thats stuff for citizens to do besides meditate.

I mean, this is a real opportunity to create generational prosperity not just for you but for everyone who is involved in building it up. I hope that, whatever happens, you keep it safe from people who would see it turned into more wealthy suburbs or a cash crop operation that kills the soil in a generation.

Good luck to you on your journey and, again, I'd be thrilled to be a part of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

I thought you bought a picture at first

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 minutes ago

Infungible Plot of Land

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Any zoning issues? May be worth splitting it up, lease some for farming for now, set up a couple of acres for a small utility/living area so you can visit and stay for short periods or permanently so you can get a sense of actually being there... Seasons, smells, sounds, wildlife, infrastructure like roads will all impact what the experience or opportunities actually are and often bday depending on the time of year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

If you would like to live there someday I would recommend that as your goal. I would recommend you start doing some research on permaculture which is about building wholly sustainability. Part of this sustainability is financial and piecewise building and investment. So if you want to build and live on this one day you will need the money for it.

So start with leasing the land for at least 1 year to get some cash and for you to better understand where you might want to build a structure and what you need. This allows you to plan and see what part would fit a dwelling the best. This also lets you figure out what you need for this house (i.e. water, electricity, waste removal etc.) as well as figure out how this investment can make money for you. Start small and build modularly. Your dwelling may start on as shack or even a place to set up a tent and grow larger. Same with whatever you end up doing with the land.

Permaculture talks about building food forests which are sustainable year round sources of food, goods or materials. Some of which you can sell or use yourself. These are typically perennial plants, vines and trees which all grow off each other and make a beautiful space. This can be your space for "remote working" either for yourself or visitors.

While planning on starting on this you can continue to lease your land to farmers as you slowly take it over yourself for your bigger vision. This is suppose to be small, slow but sustainable growth to your final vision.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Plant something ASAP on that naked land or it will all be carried away by rain and wind.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Looks like someone was farming it before, OP should contact them first since they will know about the potential and problems. Maybe make a percentage-of-profits deal rather than a lease. The timing is good for a crop, if they move quickly.

Or rewild it with native plants. Maybe some young trees on the windward edge, and seeds for a meadow

[–] [email protected] 3 points 25 minutes ago

Plant whatever everybody around this area is planting and ASAP. He can think about what to do next year, but not this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Ideas 1, 2, and 4 could come together with a permaculture food forest/farm. First task would be to cover crop the land to protect from soil loss and start replenishing some nutrients. Then, you have some time to make a good, phased plan of how you'd want to develop it.

Talk to experts and professionals whichever direction you take. They'll often save you much more than they cost.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it's only going to be land used for farming.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

At least a wind block on the edges

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I vote for the dang trees. I like trees.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Ain't nobody speaking for them dang trees so lend a hand and give em a voice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

Even then, dynamic agroforestry would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

For now? Lease as much of that land as you can. Cover crop the rest. You do not want bare, tilled soil sitting there for a year+ as you figure out bigger plans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Lease as much of that land as you can.

Careful. The Lemmy mob is watching 👀

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago

Ha. Anyone who’s farmed knows that ag leases are such a different scenario and very negotiable, especially if you are working with someone who wants to see the land in production or help young farmers etc. I WISH there had been more willing landlords when I was farming, it took me two years to find a place at all. Lemmings can hate once they’ve negotiated their own ag lease 👀 👩🏻‍🌾

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Mmmmm local grown food and a landlord!? 🍽️ 🍽️ 🍽️

:P

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How close are you to high voltage transmission lines? This might be good for an commercial sized solar farm.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

There's a solar farm 1km away. I heard here it would require like $1m of investment and it pays for itself in 7 years but that's above my pay grade AFAIK

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

YMMV. We've got a local solar farm & the operation has gone belly-up, changed hands twice. It's got to be on its third investor/owner. Also depends on the quality of your build & your local weather; that solar field isn't even fully operational yet. Got hit by a massive hail storm maybe almost 2 years ago, it had to have smashed a couple hundred solar panels.

If you're interested in it, I'd be very careful. Insure everything. Ask everybody, people in the industry if possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There’s no natural disasters here but I’d have to have political connections and be rich if I wanted to do something like this without getting hurt in this country. I rather have less to lose and do something more modest

But out of curiosity, how would the investment numbers look like? They invest 1m on land and get 60% of the returns and I get 40% for the next 20 yeas for example?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

I have no idea personally, I'm just telling you what I observe. And from what I've observed, it's not this stupidly simple operation that anyone can do & it's "basically a money printing machine", as others on here are telling you.

If it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense. As a general rule. That solar farm has gone under & sold ownership twice in idk 7-8 years.

I am pro-solar panel, and I was anti-wind turbine because the old fiberglass blade turbines filled with oil were dumb. But as I understand that technology, too, is improving & idk we'll have to see how the new ones perform. Seems to me doing these things on a more commercial scale where you're selling it to the grid can get a little fucky. There are reasons why it's slowly taking off. There are reasons why people build, then sell, then the buyers sell. It's probably a tricky endeavor with its own challenges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You could get a smaller amount of panels at first, and later expand your solar farm. But I don't know if that would keep the costs low enough to be manageable for you, as solar panels aren't even the most expensive part of a solar farm. The biggest upfront investment would probably be all the electrical gear, e.g. the inverter, etc.
You could try getting a loan. Demand for renewable electricity is pretty high after all, banks might be willing to invest in something like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago

I mean...

So do 1/10th of that. 100k pays for itself in 7 years? Still have 9/10 of your land to play with.

Just a thought. turnkey operations are geist for land ownership.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

you wouldn't pay for it all up front yourself.. you'd set up a business and find an investor to provide the money you'd need. It's a pretty easy sell for an investor as it's a predictable money printing machine.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No answer here, just wanted to say you inadvertently wrote one of the most interesting geolocation challenges I've seen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are you interested in helping with this challenge? :D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

I might try finding it later but still no idea what to do with the field, sorry :p

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You bought a bunch of land with no plan for it??

It looks like it’s been farmed recently. I don’t know what the growing season there is, you might be too late to start this year, but if you can lease it to a farmer for this season that at least has the land be productive while you figure out your longer-term plan. That way you can put plans in place to start work when the growing season is finished.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

You bought a bunch of land with no plan for it??

It is common in this country to invest in land. It would have been better to invest in US tech stocks but I was young and not well informed

Any thoughts on figuring out longer-term plan?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Actually, you might have dodged a bullet with those tech stocks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Did you ever see the movie Holes (2003)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Are you suggesting they might have a no good dirty rotten pig stealing great great grandfather?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Why is the village depopulated, if there's a huge industrial zone nearby presumably with lots of employees? I was thinking workers might want to buy or rent low cost housing near their workplace if the land is zoned for it and you could get electric and a well, then build some simple small housing. But if they're not buying in the village, might not be a great idea unless there's something wrong or lacking with available properties in the village.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Usually people in villages want to move to modern areas. Villages are old, boring, ugly, etc usually

Workers of industrial zone live in residential areas near the industrial zone. You could see that area in the picture below if you zoom

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago

Does leasing the land pay enough to make it worthwhile? Gives you time to think.

If it's fertile land you should probably use it, or lease it, to grow food.

Farming is not easy. Until you learnt to be good at it you'll put in a lot of hours into making not much money after costs have been paid.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

If I had this land, I'd grow food.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

With all the rage about digital detox trips you could probably get people to grow food for you while paying you for the opportunity, if the marketing is done right.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Did you check that you're actually allowed to build and live there? Depending on where that is (i guess left out on purpose), you can't simply decide to build a house in a field.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

Leasing it to a farmer seems like the obvious choice. I'm not sure digital nomads would be all that interested in working in the middle of a field.

I'd love to see land like this returning to nature with native vegetation, but that would take a really long time and doesn't come with an obvious path to making a profit. Unless you sell it to developers for a higher price in a few years, of course.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago

What about a campsite?

No yoghurt weaving digital nomad yoga shite.

Just a plain old campsite that people can stay on with their campervans, caravans, tents etc

You'd probably need a shower and toilet at least.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In the short term, leasing to a farmer isn't a bad idea. It looks like a lot of your tentative plans will take time and money, so a short term land rental might be a good idea.

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