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For your simple[r] tax needs: https://directfile.irs.gov

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 9 months ago (15 children)

As a non US citizen this is just a Robin Williams in Jumanji moment...

WHAT YEAR IS IT?!?!

Anyways, welcome to the year of the interwebs.

Have you got rid of your cheques and faxes yet? πŸ˜‰

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

interwebs

It’s called β€œthe information superhighway”, thank you very much. πŸ˜„

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh we can file our taxes online, we're just required to pay massive amounts of money to a corporate middleman to do it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Oh we can ___, we're just required to pay massive amounts of money to a corporate middleman to do it.

Basically America.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I still write 2 cheques a year because my water bill can only be paid via physical mail (or in person I guess), I’m pretty sure fax is still common in our medical industry.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Damn only like 20 years behind the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago

Couldn’t hear you over the sound of my freedom

…nevermind, that was somebody rolling coal

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I guess canada is 21 years behind now....

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Just a heads up it’s only available for the following states:

Arizona California Florida Massachusetts Nevada New Hampshire New York South Dakota Tennessee Texas Washington state Wyoming

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Yeah, bummer. I'll have to wait I guess.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Which is funny considering this is only for federal and not state taxes. Do they say why it’s limited to specific states?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Most of the listed states do not have state level income taxes. The only exceptions are Arizona and California. The rest of the states have no state level income tax. Alaska is the only state without a state level income tax that isn't included in this IRS scheme.

I imagine there is a reason all but two of the chosen states lack a state level income tax.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a trial program, to work out the major kinks, issues, and problems before rolling it out further to other states.

It's also federal-only, meaning you still have to do your state returns. Most of the states in the trial have no state income tax, which makes it an ideal solution for taxpayers in those states.

Expect it to expand to all 50 states in the coming years, presuming Republicans don't somehow manage to legislate it into oblivion like usual.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago (13 children)

If you aren't able to use this new system, a good second option is freetaxusa.com. Free for most filings and dirt cheap for more complex stuff. Also, they are easier to use than TurboTax.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

It would probably have better adoption if it didn't have such a scammy-sounding name.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

A better idea is to go to irs.gov and use their free file wizard to see which service is free for you. I used 1040.com this year. Last year I used freetaxusa.com, but this year that would not have been free for me due to my change in income. Which service is free depends on your state, income, and income complexity.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I experienced true happiness for a moment. Only one moment.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Due to lack of public identity infrastructure, filing taxes online in Britain takes a long time. I mean, at least 10 minutes πŸ˜„

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Why did this take the IRS so long where other nations have been doing this for decades?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Turbotax, H&R Block, and the other tax companies are massively wealthy companies that actively lobby to push laws to keep them from being simple. There are states that they have managed to bar the same thing from happening in.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

To clarify, TurboTax isn’t the company, it is Intuit. They are pretty shitty when it comes to lobbying congress on this.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The other guy linked the answer, but I'm going to explain it anyway:

In the US, companies have the freedom to ~~bribe~~ lobby our congress members by giving them money that's totally unrelated to their vote you guys. The reasoning behind that being ok is that the congress official in question is still technically free to vote however they choose despite the money given to them. The reason lobbying works is the threat that the congress person might not get that money next time if they vote against that company's interests.

Just so you all know, because our congress members make a government salary of about 150k-250k/year, it's surprisingly cheap (from a rich company perspective) to lobby them, with lots of payments being in the low thousands. So for obscenely wealthy companies (like intuit), it's much cheaper to pay just enough guys off to kill a movement than for them to suffer the actual consequences of that movement.

In this case, intuit's entire business model depends on American taxes seeming like this mysterious and unapproachable thing that Americans have to pay a third party for in order to not get thrown in jail by the IRS. And given that intuit (and companies like H&R block) rake in billions each year, it's comparatively pennies to pay off congress officials to keep it that way.

-> 'Merica

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Legalized corruption 😎

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Lobbyists - quite disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Same reason why our Healthcare system is fucked, it being fucked helps the Insurance Companies make money.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (13 children)

I'm 100% for a simple IRS tax return but what the heck is with this?

To use Direct File, you need an IRS account with ID.me.

To get an ID.me account, you need to:

Take a video of your face

If you can't or don't want to take a video of your face, you can have a video call with an ID.me agent who will confirm that your face matches your identification.

Is that really necessary???

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's the same as going to a bank and letting the teller look at your face. It's to prevent someone from stealing your identity using a picture of your ID.

How can they verify the ID is real without physically seeing it? They look up the info but still need to verify that you are the person on the ID.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How have they been verifying mailed in tax forms with no pictures for decades?

Seems like it unnecessarily disenfranchises the poor and the elderly. You have to have access to equipment that can record you and the tech savvy to be able to use it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Ok but how come H&R Block doesn't need to do this? I just give them my IRS PIN and the AGI from last year's return. The picture shit feels like a poison pill

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Good thing Intuit (TurboTax) is fighting so hard to keep the current format super slick and cheaper as a private service rather than a centralized government process. Right up there with disbanding garbage pickup in favor of individually contracted services because [checks notes] 7 overlapping truck routes will be cheaper than 1

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

18F looking for tax filling help

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

k if u single but looking to file jointly πŸ‘‰πŸ‘ˆ

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Somebody think of the poor corporations!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

why is it the US is hellbent on making everything a state by state issue but at the same time saying federal law is above state law in such cases like Texas but states with legal cannabis or states with legal abortion are allowed to be above federal

is the US the United States or not

make it make sense

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The things that the federal government is responsible for are laid out in the Constitution, everything the Constitution does not place into the responsibilities of the federal government is left to state or local authorities.

Tenth Amendment:

Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's 50 states in a trench coat

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

make it make sense

We're a slightly tighter coupled EU with less history of separation. We're states that are united. Not one big ol unified country.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

IDK why people are downvoting you, that's essentially how it works. Everything is super interconnected now, but it wasn't always that way and the constitution hasn't been updated to reflect it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Good stuff. Keep in mind that Intuit fought this for a very long time. But since they finally got stomped, the IRS can do it's thing now.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If you lived in a state not listed here, the District of Columbia, or a U.S. territory, Direct File won't support your tax filing needs.

lol I guess not for me!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How could they launch this and not support login.gov for the auth...

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No Login dot gov

No support in most states

No ACA filers

No app payments

Lots of reason to be frustrated. BUT! This is an absolutely delicious blow to the Intuit lobbyists and if it can handle the simplest of the simple, think of the green light they’ll have towards eventual global parity!

Been so bad (and evil) for so long, I’m in the mood to celebrate more than nitpick. (No Login dot gov I will say is the funniest thing not to be considered MVP - understandable but funny.)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thanks Brandon

Honestly I'll hope reservations and congratulations till after we see how it goes, but the fact it's a limited pilot makes me optimistic.

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