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Context: Donald Trump spewing bullshit about annexing Canada and Greenland. Meanwhile, Congress has been dragging their feet for YEARS on resolving Puerto Rico's territorial status.

Citizens living in US territories do not receive equal representation in congress. For instance, PR has one "delegate" to the House (not an official voting member) and no senators. Taxation without representation.

Although, at this point I wouldn't blame PR if they changed their minds about wanting to become the 51st state.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

If the US gives away Puerto Rico, a ton of technology companies will be in trouble due to citizen requirements. Like my company off shores a lot of engineering and IT work to PR.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure by 51st state he means Puerta Rico like status. If the entirety of Canada was considered 1 state it may as well be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

There's no way he'd annex Canada then give them the right to vote. It would be 2 more Democratic Senators, a massive leftward shift in the House, and would have more electoral college votes than any other state - all going to the Dems.

Edit: The more I think about it the more I like the idea. Can we annex them for like 1 election cycle, clean house, then de-annex them. We just need them to be American for like 3-4 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I feel like things could work out for them if territory boundaries were kept intact and integrated as individual states. I feel like Ontario would settle as a solid democrat state, but I think the rest are still in play. I want to say Quebec would end up democrat too but Quebec is surprising, I wouldn't put any money on it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Does PR want to be independent?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum

60℅ wants statehood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Canadians are white. Case closed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Just heads up, pointing this out makes his cult happier, they fully want him to snub a Hispanic territory for a country that says 'speak white' to other European languages also originating from white people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

"You'll never have to vote again" was, I believe, the quote, so... Not to minimize this very real problem, but I think we all need to be worried about equal representation, right? 🤣😂😅😢

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Oh I believe if you had a referendum right now, PR would go for independence. Tying yourself up to this ship would be bad news. Trump wouldn't just bring back bombing Vieques, he'd turn the main island into a firing range.

I wonder if he'd deport me since I have a PR birth certificate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I wonder if he'd deport me since I have a PR birth certificate.

Easy way to tell:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure. Climate change had doomed PR. Increasing storms, sea level rise, and location make it an increasingly unviable place to live. If they go out on their own they have nowhere to go.

As it they can move to a state and vote without needing any government approval or immigration. They are US citizens. I live in Florida and have a fair number of friends who are from PR. All of their families are planning on moving here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Moving is the only part that makes sense, until the trumpets convince the Supremes that birthright citizenship isn’t anymore.

You can be sure PR citizens will be high on the list to be deported back to the island, and with fema and the rest of the doge shut downs, they’ll be fucked by the next hurricane anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It would take more than removing birthright citizenship. Congress granted U.S. citizenship to Puerto Rico citizens in 1917.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But who's gonna toss them paper towels when there's a tsunami?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The former paper towel budget has been slashed to half a sheet.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe the independence votes will grow, but since there is also still the large Puerto Rican diaspora in the US keeping close ties to the island, it would be difficult to separate from that with an independence movement. And a lot of Puerto Rican communities in the US who are eligible to vote for the president saw an uptick in support for the Republicans anyways, despite the "trash island" comment during Trump's campaign.

At least as of a few months ago, the symbolic vote on the island was still overwhelmingly in favor of statehood, with independence being the least supported option.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Puerto Rico should join Canada.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s cool, I didn’t think Puerto Ricans had expressed a clear preference, but 56% is pretty good. What are we waiting for? Let’s define a path, let’s start walking it. Let’s chat about whether it’s the path they want.

After a quick read on the issue, the biggest argument against was that Hispanics vote Democrat. But now that Trump broke that trend, maybe now’s the time to get Republicans on board.

Both mainland us and PR have a lot to offer each other. PR can benefit from more investment in their economy, healthcare, infrastructure, etc, we can benefit from both a slight change in perspective, additional business and tourism opportunities, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Believe it or not.

I don’t know much about the state of healthcare there and nothing about how health coverage or insurance works, but from stories after the hurricane, it appears hospitals are much less equipped or accessible. A significant investment in technology and medical offices seems beneficial.

I’m certainly willing to be called wrong by anyone with first hand or more complete knowledge

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm but if the big stumbling block before was that one of the only 2 parties you have to choose from didn't want PR to become a state on the basis of its population generally voting the other party, and now that's changed and they prefer the party that previously opposed their integration in to the union, wouldn't the party that formerly supported them now simply become opposed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It’s all theater while we turn ourselves into Cuba

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I've always heard, most people there weren't interested in being an actual state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like I said, that was my impression as well, but it appears the last referendum had 56% in favor. I don’t know if that’s enough for a significant change in government but it’s clearly enough to take seriously. It’s enough that I hope there is a clear process and clear thresholds to progress in whatever direction the people want, and most of all I wish the US wasn’t an obstruction to whichever direction they want to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Agreed, same with other territories.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He keeps saying he wants to make Canada a state but we all know he means “territory” or at least that’s what the ultimate outcome would be. The people around him are not dumb enough to create a new massive state with like 50 EC votes that would 100% vote Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Very optimistic of you to think that there will be any more honest voting

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Very optimistic of you to think that previous voting was completely honest.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

It’s amazing to me that Hawaii has around half the population of Puerto Rico and still they aren’t a state.

It’s sad.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Come on, guys, we all know Israel is already our 51st state if not seat of power.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're USA's "Vatican city". The US is a theocracy that takes direct orders from its religious authority (Netanyahu).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Which is funny because he doesn't wear the male religious hat (kippah) and he only ever goes to Shul (synagogue) when a camera is pointed at him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No we're their 2nd state...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

*7th district (not counting their west bank district)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Puerto Rico in reality "good now everyone can stop asking us to be the 51st"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, & Guam: "Maybe they'll forget we exist..."

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Washington DC: bottom meme

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

At least PR doesn't get its budget and local laws overturned. DC is like below colony status.

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