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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 hour ago

“The plagiarism machine will break without more things to plagiarize.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 seconds ago

If I had to pay tuition for education (buying text books, pay for classes and stuff), then you have to pay me to train your stupid AI using my materials.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

I'll take him seriously if & when OpenAI lives up to its name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

"How are we supposed to win the race if we can't cheat?!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Good, end this AI bullshit, it has little upsides and a metric fuckton of downsides for the common man

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

You don't want to all become literally socially and mentally retarded together but apart?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This is exactly what social media companies have been doing for a while (it’s free, yes) they use your data to train their algorithms to squeeze more money out of people. They get a tangible and monetary benefit from our collective data. These AI companies want to train their AI on our hard work and then get monetary benefit off of it. How is this not seen as theft or even if they are not doing it just yet…how is it not seen as an attempt at theft?

How come people (not the tech savvy) are unable to see how they are being exploited? These companies are not currently working towards any UBI bills or policies in governments that I am aware of. Since they want to take our work, and use it to get rich and their investors rich why do they think they are justified in using people’s work? It just seems so slime-y.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Over in the US, that's giving China the advantage in AI development. Won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago

It's it's like USA adopting China's IP laws.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

dont threaten me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

No, actually they've just finally admitted that they can't improve them any further because there's not enough training data in existence to squeeze any more demonizing returns out of.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Oops, oh well. I very much hope it's over, asshole.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The only way this would be ok is if openai was actually open. make the entire damn thing free and open source, and most of the complaints will go away.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Truly open is the only way LLMs make sense.

They're using us and our content openly. The relationship should be reciprocal. Now, they need to somehow keep the servers running.

Perhaps a SETI like model?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, make em non profit (or not for profit) and perfecly good with that. Also open source the model so I can run it on my own hardware if I want to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Open AI kind of is a nonprofit. It's a nonprofit entity owned by a for profit entity, which is fucky and defeats the purpose, but that's an argument you'll see people make.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 hours ago

over it is then. Buh bye!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why does Sam have such a punchable face?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

let's have a tier list of billionaires by face punchability.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

my top 3:

#1 Elon Musk

#2 Mark Zuckerberg

#3 Jeff Bezos

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I hate zuckerburg as much as anyone, but I find his face surprisingly low on the punchability index. Musk and Bezos at 1 and 2 for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Zuck is, however, at the top of the list for lizard person index.

Bezos has such a shit-eating grin. Really makes him infinitely more punchable

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 hours ago

Business that stole everyone's information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

Yeah I'll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared... Wankers.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 10 hours ago (20 children)

But I can't pirate copyrighted materials to "train" my own real intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

That's because the elites don't want you to think for yourself, and instead are designing tools that will tell you what to think.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

"We can't succeed without breaking the law. We can't succeed without operating unethically."

I'm so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it's not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

Too many people think they're superior. Which is ironic, because they're also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn't need all the unethical things that you're asking for.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Apparantly their trying to get Deepseek banned again, really doesn't like competition this guy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

Copyrights should have never been extended longer than 5 years in the first place, either remove draconian copyright laws or outlaw LLM style models using copyrighted material, corpos can't have both.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I think copyright lasting 20 years or so is not unreasonable in our current society. I'd obviously love to live in a society where we could get away with lower. As a compromise, I'd like to see compulsory licensing applied to all written work. (E.g., after n years, anyone can use it if they pay royalties and you can't stop them; the amount of royalties gradually decreases until it's in the public domain.)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Bro, what? Some books take more than 5 years to write and you want their authors to only have authorship of it for 5 years? Wtf. I have published books that are a dozen years old and I'm in my mid-30s. This is an insane take.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The one I thought was a good compromise was 14 years, with the option to file again for a single renewal for a second 14 years. That was the basic system in the US for quite a while, and it has the benefit of being a good fit for the human life span--it means that the stuff that was popular with our parents when we were kids, i.e. the cultural milieu in which we were raised, would be public domain by the time we were adults, and we'd be free to remix it and revisit it. It also covers the vast majority of the sales lifetime of a work, and makes preservation and archiving more generally feasible.

5 years may be an overcorrection, but I think very limited terms like that are closer to the right solution than our current system is.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 hours ago

So pirating full works for commercial use suddenly is "fair use", or what? Lets see what e.g. Disney says about this.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 hours ago

Where are the copyright lawsuits by Nintendo and Disney when you need them lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago

Good.

Fuck Sam Altman's greed. Pay the fucking artists you're robbing.

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