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Five years after the coronavirus outbreak, many Americans say public behavior in the United States has changed for the worse, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I’d walk that back to the first trump campaign. That’s when assholes decided it was ok to come out of the closet and abandon all pretenses at having any objective reasoning behind it. The whole “snowflake”, “liberal tears”, and “fucking the country up is ok as long as it pisses off the libs” thing really got rolling.

Don’r forget, we had trump convoys harassing people, nazis at protests starting fights, laws made so that it is ok to run over protesters…. Yeah, the shitty behavior thing was in full swing prior to Covid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everybodys got their head shoved up their ass.

Main character syndrome is rampant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"What do you mean five people got here before me?! I NEED my coffee!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Well that’s rude of them to say…

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Covid was the the grand reveal of what average americans actually are.

And 50% of average americans are self centered, hateful pieces of shit that deserve a fist shoved down their throat and a red hot rod shoved up their ass.

25% are genuinely decent people who would make any sacrifice to protect people they've never will, and probably never would meet.

and the remaining 25% make a big show of trying to decide between which one of these two groups of people are the actual good people. (and then, regardless of who they say or how they act, end up perfectly in line with the 50% )

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it was the Trump presidency, which coincided with the pandemic. Every piece of shit who rightfully kept their bad behavior under wraps was shown someone rewarded with the presidency for being an absolute human crusty cum sock and decided to go mask off. Then they banded together, like a hateful, musty pile of jizz saturated teenage laundry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

In one respect, Hillary Clinton was right. How she named the seething mass of ignorant hatred was spot on.

The Deplorables.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

100% this.

I think it had been building for years due to ever increasing numbers of people behaving badly behind pseudonyms online but the majority of asshats still maintained the illusion of not being asshats. Trump's first ascendancy gave all those closet asshats permission to no longer care about maintaining illusions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Hey now. Some of us are rude now because we had to deal with that 50% for so many years. Eventually, we stopped asking them politely and start telling them to lick toilet seats.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

I always knew deep down inside that most people are shit head assholes.

Covid brought me a lot of validation in those feelings.

The other thing people are missing is that Covid came about during trumps presidency and it was Trump that TRULY showed me how fucking abhorrent a huge amount of people are in this country.

As a result I have a lot less respect and regard for the common person.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

COVID definitely made me more misanthropic.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

COVID, or the response to COVID, broke a lot of people's brains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Pretty much this.

I worked retail during COVID. Watching people, somehow, find it within themselves to become more rude, demeaning and aggressive was awful.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let me tell you why I'm rude.

I'm standing in line for a return at Target. This old karen with a "Grandma for Trump" shirt on walks up behind me.

I've been waiting for at least 10 minutes and nobody is there. I've got all the time in the world, the workers have seen me, all good.

Karen starts bitching to me about how the "lazy n****rs" won't serve her here. it's happened tons of times.

I look this old bitch in the face and say, "fuck off you racist old cunt. nobody owes you shit."

she got all red in the face and sulked off to whatever crackden she crawled out of.

I'm rude, because of the audacity of racist white old fucks who just need to mix their meds juuuust right for the deep sleep.

if y'all racist pos are that fucking miserable, do the world a favor and fuck right off to a hole in the ground.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The fucking gall of some people... How many times has she pulled that gem out in public and gotten positive responses for her to be so confident and non-chalant about saying that to a complete stranger?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I think the rest of us need to realize what you probably already have; It's easy to stay quiet because you think speaking up won't make a difference. But your voice (online and real life) carries more weight than you realize. Speak up, don't let these assholes exist unchallenged. Make them afraid again.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Japan as well. One theory is that people realized how much nicer it was to have work-life balance and not be jammed on overcrowded rush hour trains only to be forced back to it

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I loved COVID so much, if people weren't dying and people weren't being deterred in camps (we were forcibly putting people in guarded camps like lol thats gonna be my crazy grampa story) but everything else stayed the same it would certainly be imperfect but closest we're ever moved toward a utopia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This is very much an introverted take that only sounds like utopia to the main audience on a website like this.
Not that it didn't have upsides I just would heavily push back on calling any part of Covid or its outcome so far close to utopia.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean I don't know a lot of people actively wanted to kill others because they decided it was a fucking hoax and some of them literally went to their deathbeds while risking doctors' and nurses' lives via exposure to them.

Something emboldened the stupid to be monstrously pig-headed and arrogant about being stupid, and guess what, the people with an education are absolutely sick of their loser ass bullshit.

You don't negotiate or play nice with idiots whose stupidity can and will fucking kill you and your loved ones and even the ones doling out medical care to the idiots. Nah, this is the world they asked for. Done pandering to pansies who can't face fucking reality because it makes them feel stupid. Guess what, you are stupid. Get used to it, nimrod, or get a fucking education.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Something emboldened the stupid to be monstrously pig-headed and arrogant about being stupid, and guess what, the people with an education are absolutely sick of their loser ass bullshit.

Probably has something to do with something monstrously pig-headed and arrogant about being stupid being elected President and suffering literally zero consequences for its negative traits.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah this feels exactly how the cycle keeps on continuing back and forth. And while the start may have been legitimate criticism to awful behaviour we have a society fed by social media saying there is no such thing, just idiots who disagree.
So, round and round we go. Pushing on the next insult to finally show those idiots we won't take it anymore and now everyone is upset with everyone.

It takes more effort than I think anyone has the energy to, to be nice when you are hurting and angry. Especially when it's easy to see and feel like they don't deserve the energy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Customer service rep here. Can confirm.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not saying it’s ok to be rude or anything bad/negative but those customer service scripts or how ever they train their employees is so degrading or just plain bad and I want to drop something heavy on my toe about it. I like to heavily roll my eyes every time. I know there’s a rhyme and reason for it (not the America common courtesy BS) so I don’t mind to be educated about it. I rather people just be human and be helpful and not treat other off put .

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I have a problem, you need to add a feature flag to my account that wasn't properly provisoned."

"OK, let's check, are you on wifi? Have cellular signal?"

"Yes, irrelevant, I need this feature code added to the account. You'll be off this call in 30 seconds and your KPMs will look amazing."

"OK, first, let's try resetting your network settings."

"You realize doing that erases all saved wifi networks, VPNs, Bluetooth pairings, and a bunch of other stuff that will take me hours to fix, and has nothing to do with my problem?"

"OK, continuing on... let me send a network refresh."

"Just look up the feature code to provision this."

"OK, we wil, generate a new eSIM."

Most tech support calls here. Just give me admin access and I'll fix it myself. (I try to never be rude, I know they gotta follow a script but I'm hand-feeding the answer here!)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I worked tech support for years and the trick is to just start off with a list of everything you've done. Even if you haven't done it just hit them with that list. Most people working tier 1 support don't actually know anything about technology and just have a list of steps to take. Once they've exhausted that list they are lost and have no clue what to do and that's when they would hit me up on their help desk.

Another aspect of it could also be that they assume you don't know what you're talking about and are just regurgitating something you read somewhere. You wouldn't believe how many times someone would call in with something like this "I just need this xyz solution" and they would be completely wrong about it. For the reps that know what they are doing this is at least 1 or 2 calls a day for them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

America has hollowed out its public school system, and then wonders why products of that system have reduced in quality?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

32% say it’s sometimes acceptable to play music out loud

I can't say I'm surprised by the revelation that 32% of people need to fuck off and die, I just didn't think that it would br for this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think people have been parenting at all for over thirty years and as a result we have become a nation of self unaware entitled shitbags with IQ's in the double digits at best.

Idiocracy is fucking real life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It doesn't help that our public education system has been purposely dismantled over that time as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It sure does feel like that sometimes. Maybe to much emphasis on childhood being never over and western society viewing childhood as a period free of consequences, as if that could ever be true. As if they front load heaven for afluent people and suggest it could be permanent if only they believe in it and pay up.

But unfortunately they aren't stupid. Self unaware people can be shockingly smart and think themselves in the right crowd through brazenly dumb logic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Because of COVID, or just within the last few years? I'm not sure the rudeness was caused purely by the pandemic, because gestures broadly

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People have been saying that the world is getting ruder for thousands of years. I didn't see anywhere in the article where they compared this finding to that baseline.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Mr. Snot Flickerman with the receipts!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The new one in my current city is also driving without a license plats to not get charged at the tolls and being able to avoid dashcams in accidents...

Saying it out loud it's more like the rules don't matter because of a lack of enforcement from digital systems being easily exploited.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I always felt it was because of 'social norms' (the unwritten non-laws we all conduct ourselves by) have eroded away in the age of Trump, enhancing the normal angst the two 'culture war' sides have for each other, releasing people from acting civilly with each other. Throw in the new age of corporate 'conflict bots' on social media, and things get amped up even more.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No. Started before pandemic.

Been brewing for 100yrs or better.

Largest recent notable change was when Chump gave permission/encouragement to "people" to be public assholes starting the Cult of Chump.

And it's gone downhill from there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I'd definitely agree, especially regarding driving. Last summer I was talking with my insurance agent, and wondering why auto insurance rates were going through the roof, to which he responded that accidents are surging. I live in a small town, and haven't really seen to much of an increase. Then I went down to visit my mom last weekend, and holy shit now I know what they're talking about. People driving like absolute lunatics, much worse than when I lived down there, especially during rush hour. Another side note, COVID broke people experiencing concerts. It used to be people dancing, moshing, singing along, etc. Now, people just stand there, usually on their phones, and look at you like a nutjob if you dance. I saw David Gilmore at the Hollywood Bowl a few months ago, and aside from people talking straight through the show (which happened even before COVID because people have always sucked), most of the crowd was sitting still in their seats, and the people behind us got mad when we were standing. It was weird. Like I know that Gilmore attracts an older crowd these days, but still, it's David freaking Gilmore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This past summer I was on mass transit and some asshole was smoking a blunt. On the fucking subway car.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Tons more road rage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I could be nice.... for money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I have much less tolerance for morons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They also can’t fucking drive to save their own lives and are constantly checking their phone at red lights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

Are we sure this isn't just recency bias? Pretty sure people have been very rude for a long time

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