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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago

~~Google~~ America is on the Wrong side of History.

[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Literally every publicly owned corporation that is at the mercy of shareholders is on the wrong side of history.

As this shit gets normalized, watch all of them fall in line.

Apple is already back advertising on X.

Corporations only care about money, and they will change their values to match what makes money.

They never accepted women, blacks, latinos, LGBTQ+, and the disabled into their ranks because they thought those people were humans who had intrinsic value just for existing.

No, they accepted them because they knew they were leaving money on the table. They could market shaving to women to increase razor blade sales, because now women employees would have money to spend. They could market hair care products to the black community because now their black employees would have money to spend.

It was always about expanding markets and finding more people to sell shit to. Once that stops being profitable in the USA, treating those people like humans will stop. Watch it happen with the disabled and LGBTQ+ first.

It was never just Rainbow Capitalism, because this shit literally goes all the way back to Women's Suffrage and the Civil Rights eras. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Corporations just reflect the values of their owners. There are companies that emphasize things other than revenue, but as soon as a company goes public and becomes controlled by Wall Street, profit becomes their sole motivation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yup, but most people have savings or some kind of pension, both are often put into the stock market by the bank or pension fund to give us the interest we want.

We need to try and exercise more of our power as stakeholder in these companies, in the end we still have the power to not use products from these massive corporations. Stop order from shit like Amazon, but go and order from smaller stores, switch search engine and browser, etc.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why the stock market was, fundamentally, a trojan horse. It was created so capitalism could intertwine the peoples wealth and retirement funds to the success of the wealth of the oligarchy, making the entire market too big to fail.

Now the entire system is designed to prevent damage to companies, no matter how moral, unethical, or criminal. The success of corporations IS treated as equal to "national security".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Stock market was a bookie for rich people. I think you meant 401k.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

In the end, the stock market is a natural logical progression from the starts of capitalism, and the situation we are in today is again closer to capitalism logical conclusion

From capitalism's basic principles, profit above literally everything was always bound to happen. Just how evolution happens through natural selection. It's a similar process. Because ultimately capitalism is an economic system built on competition, not cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Capitalism is amoral

EDIT: to be clear that's A-moral not IM-moral

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I assert it's also immoral, especially in modern times.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No ethical consumption under capitalism, yep.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a capitalist corporation that sold its soul to the highest bidder. Of course it's evil. It's based on greed and exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Google's parent is the alphabet Corp, who started with funding from, and working for the US alphabet agencies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaire bad?? How could this be!!? I was told whenever two parties entered into a voluntary agreement it meant both of them mutually improved their situation and that if you got billions out of it, it meant by definition that you did a lot of good!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's a gun to your head, now, it would be beneficial to you to hand over your wallet m'kay?

No bullet in your brain, more cash in my hand, both parties benefit! See how that works?

Oh, you have a lump growing in your thyroid, mmmm.... that is bad. We can cut that out for you and most people we do that to live a lot longer, but first we need you to mortgage your home and give us the proceeds. See how that works?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Gun to the head is exactly why the word "voluntary" is specified

But yes, you could eventually say "I did not consent to be born please arrest my mom"

In that case, you can also solve your examole choice by gun grabbing ans shooting the guy if he lets you take it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

you can also solve your examole choice by gun grabbing ans shooting the guy if he lets you take it.

Ah, but that wouldn't be mutually beneficial, would it?

Also, this didn't take long:

Some federal employees who accepted Trump’s buyout offer are now being notified that their buyout has been denied, and they are being terminated instead.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Inevitably, all hierarchical organizations end up on the wrong side of history.

In hierarchies, people compete for position.

People with principles, morals, integrity and/or empathy will have choices that they simply will not make.

People without those things are not constrained. They can and will make whatever choices might benefit them, with no regard for the consequences to others.

So all other things being more or less equal, psychopaths actually have a competitive advantage in hierarchies, and hierarchies end up effectively rewarding and thus selecting for psychopathy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And in turn, breeds more psychopathy. I'm fairly convinced psychopathy is, at least partly, explained by epigenetics.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And if there is one uniting principle in conservatism, the singular reason why religious dirt-poor common-clay-of-the-West support billionaires, is that they all deeply believe in hierarchies.

Why do they go after trans-women but not trans-men? Because men are naturally higher in the hierarchy than women, thus wanting to exist in male spaces (but not actually crossing into them) is seen as the proper order, whereas wanting to exist in female spaces (read: lowering yourself in the hierarchy) is seen as unnatural.

Why do they fellate the rich? Because the wealthy are better people, which is tautologically why they're rich.

Why are they racist? Because white people are better than not-white people, natch.

Why do they hate atheists? Because the very concept of religion implicitly enforces hierarchy. Sectarian disputes are just an offshoot of this.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are some offsetting factors that also prevent the "best and brightest" from rising to power: https://dealbreaker.com/2007/10/icahn-explains-why-are-there-so-many-idiots-running-shit

He moves up the corporate ladder, without a single original idea that might make his boss feel threatened by his potential.

Eventually, he gets to be the #2 guy at the company. He's a little dumber than the C.E.O., but the board likes him, so he eventually gets to be C.E.O.

Of course, he assigns a #2 who is a little dumber than he is. "And eventually, we're going to have all morons running our companies," Icahn concluded. "We might not be that far off from that right now."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That sounds vaguely like The Peter Principal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

This seems relevant here…

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We knew this as soon as they got rid of the “Don’t be evil” slogan

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

☞ We knew this as soon as they got the “Don’t be evil” slogan

if you need to remind yourself not to be evil, that's already a bad start.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Mega corps are enemy of the people but the people are too stupid to recognize it...

Culture of bootlicking among adults in the US is endemic and nothing will change until freedom enjoyers hit critical mass.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Been that way since before the “Don’t be evil” slogan was removed in 2018.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they actually removed that slogan though? They moved it from the start of the Code of Conduct to the end, but it's still there: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You’re right but people don’t care. That’s why you’re getting downvoted. In any case it’s not like it matters, does a slogan or code of conduct actually stop a company from doing shady shit? Anyone that brings it up is just doing so because they don’t really understand the situation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's just when they let the mask slip. It's not like they were saints up til that point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Hence “before they removed” the slogan.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👩‍🚀

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

And has been so for over a decade at least, probably two

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

But they're always right, just look at Google glass, Google plus, and Stadia... Or google buzz, google health, and igoogle.

Yep, Google never gets it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Ever heard of JP Morgan or GE? Doesn’t matter.

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