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Why YSK: There is a lot of cortisol going on right now. A lot of people are stressed, angry, and afraid. Those emotions all deserve to be felt, but over time, cortisol becomes neurotoxic (inflicting permanent damage on the hippocampus).

Oxytocin (responsible for feelings of love, attraction, affection, etc) is a perfect foil to cortisol. If you notice yourself feeling angry or afraid for an amount of time that bothers you, adding some oxytocin to the situation might be helpful.

Luckily for us, our biology makes oxytocin pretty easy to come across. Different activities work better for different people, but cuddling with a pet or loved one, watching cute cat videos, or having sex work for a lot of people.

Here are a few interesting sources for further reading, if you are curious.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33632072/ https://www.nature.com/articles/srep30187 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5619133/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33632072/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Ysk this is pop science

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

option 1: die of neurotoxicity.

option 2: amuse oneself to death.

option 3: destroy the fascists.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This post is basically "there's a lot of stress and anxiety right now. try feeling good"

No shit

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Awareness of the process can sometimes be helpful, especially if it catches people in the middle of a doomscroll.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've only ever heard people saying these kinds of posts make them feel worse, rather than being helpful.

It makes it seem like "it's so simple, just be happy and the stress will go away" while they, obviously, already want that but it feels unattainable to them. Thus making them feel even more like there's something wrong with them because they can't achieve something that is portrayed as a simple thing.

I get the intent of this post is in the right place, but in this case the execution is done poorly. It's best to leave this sort of thing to people more skilled and knowledgeable in the very important nuances of this kind of communication.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's not easy, and it's not simple. It takes real effort and time, but it is also important.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. This post makes it seem easy. Which can be infuriating when you're struggling with it already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Harness that fury into something good for yourself: Go for a run, train at the gym, do something physical until your anger subsides. Doesn't even have to be crazy, could just be going for a walk or jumping rope. Some days, it may eventually become easier for you, but when (at least some) people you see say stuff like that, all you can see is them in the present, and not all of their struggles, efforts, and even courage to get there and stay there.

Everyone is fighting their own internal battles, invisible to others, but real enough to them. Try to be more forgiving and understanding both to yourself and to them. It's not always easy, but it's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

I'm not sure how this comment is relevant to this conversation. My point is that this post is seeming minimizing the effort required to fight against the different causes of cortisol and may even make the situation worse.

[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

cuddling with a loved one, having sex

Why do I feel attacked. I'm guessing you want me to start eating healthy too. Unrealistic.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I consider jerking off sex with a loved one.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On one hand I see what you're saying, on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

"I call it 'The Stranger'."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

(I know you're referencing "the hand" scene, but this meme is too good to let go to waste)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More like a hate-fuck lol.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Oh, maybe try some alternatives - swimming through a pile of cash and spaceflight have shown promising results.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Next OP want us to exercise.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I just started cooking for myself. Began simply with pizza from scratch. Dough and sauce are both easy to make from raw ingredients, and the result is far better than frozen or delivery.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You haven't experienced happiness until you've cuddled the homies.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you can't make your own Oxytocin, store-bought is fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Same goes for OxyContin

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Read the title as Oxycontin and was like "damn, slow down Lemmy"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Gonna be a really rough political cycle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Funny enough OxyContin actually causes a temporary increase in cortisol. Opioids cause a stress response, body reacts by stimulating the HPA axis, and cortisol is released. Though long term use lead to dysregulation in cortisol levels and eventually blunted or irregular cortisol levels. withdrawal leads to spikes, and both withdrawal and chronic use lead to difficulty managing stress as a result

The more you know

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Hah so did I. I got 1/3 of the way through the body of the post before I realized OP just ain’t cool

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

You have no idea how careful I was every time I typed it out lol

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

having sex work for a lot of people

You only get to be happy if you're a busy prostitute. Get hustlin.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

This isn’t wrong, per say, but it’s an oversimplification of a complicated relationship

Cortisol can influence how sensitive the body is to oxytocin, for one. Similarly chronic stress can inhibit oxytocin release. Most people can recognize this effect: high stress scenarios lower the effect of all the stress remedies you’ve suggested. Doesn’t mean to not try them of course

The timing and context of cortisol release play an important role in whether it supports or hinders oxytocin's effects. Short-term stress responses might be adaptive, while long-term chronic stress can be harmful to the body's oxytocin system. As a result cortisol isn’t inherently “bad”. (This is aside from its role in metabolism, insulin response, circadian rhythms, etc)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

My brain keeps trying to read oxycontin, and I'm like, duh?

But really, good reminder! 👍

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Let me just go to the loved one tree and grab a few to have sex with

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

having sex work for a lot of people

Having enough sex work for the people is important

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What in the four humors?

This is not how human brains work. It's a wild oversimplification of one of the most complex hunks of meat on the planet, to the point of silliness.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meh. We know cortisol is bad, OP is suggesting ways to lower cortisol levels. I'm not sure why your immediate reaction is so inflammatory, pun intended, but maybe your complex hunk of meat should take OPs advice and chill out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Cortisol is awesome for many things though!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

them:

this is wild oversimplification

you:

cortisol bad

checks out

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

What in the four humors?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s not an oversimplification to suggest countering negative and hostile thoughts/feelings by doing something that makes you happy. In fact, that’s one of the first things my therapist asked me about: what do you enjoy doing for fun?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It is a wild oversimplification to suggest that oxytocin is love/happiness and cortisol is stress/anger/fear.

I'm not saying picking yourself up emotionally when you're down is bad, it's like, the most obvious advice that almost anyone would give.

I'm saying the science here is shit. It's woo-woo masquerading as brain chemistry knowledge by co-opting a few key words and phrases.

If you're gonna give cliche advice, just own it instead of dressing it up as science when it isn't. It's insulting to the audience's intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm gonna suggest, as someone who feels a bit ahead of the curve, very unhappy she was duly a "paranoiac" over the last 6 years ... that simple things like meditation and congregating w. intentional community at regular intervals, have been studied and proven to elongate lifespan and reduce stress-related health risk factors. That plus 8-9h sleep are things too many of us sacrifice.

I totally follow that your criticism of what's published is about it's lack of adherance to scientific rigor...and what I'm suggesting is this Yes, AND: Sieze the opportunity to encourage those who arent welcome or inclined to be church going, to have secular, extracurricular gatherings with regularity. It is a rare opportunity to talk about sleep debt without being preachy because that is a more tangible offering tham the publication in question.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Daddy owners set up a system that causes a lot of stress while limiting personal ability to obtain positive experiences.

Destressing and enjoying your life is a huge fuck you to these parasites. A happy person won't doom spend.

It is a sad world when only some people are able to enjoy this higher quality of life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Misreading the first word as "Diddy" was absolutely WILD for a moment, holy

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