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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh another one of these

Short answer:

"What if 4chan was communist instead of neonazi"

Similar level of assholety and low post quality. Better politics. Overall don't bother, not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago

lmao the blatant transphobia "disengage with the largest trans safe space on lemmy"

you're so obvious

even if one assumes your trollish comment was in good faith, it only takes a single glance at hexbears front page to see it's filled with kindness and reason. just people having fun online while still making space for serious discussion. and again, making sure marginalized people are safe and welcome. I wonder what your real issue with the site is?

seriously, what other site allows trans people to safely and comfortably be ourselves like this? https://hexbear.net/post/4271750

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'll do you one better, why is Hexbear??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They're straight up delusional morons.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

For transparency, you were banned not only from Hexbear but from other instances for racism, misogyny, transphobia, and COVID denial.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don't get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.

Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it's also because I'm a Marxist. The ones saying they are "pretending" to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else. What would they have to gain?

If I were you, I'd ask on an instance actually federated with them. You'll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Its a leftist space that sometimes has trolls

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago

You should block hexbear

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean Mao greatly regretted his plans and was very sad they didnt work, he went onto become a vegan and grow his own food as to not get the food meant for the workers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Responsible for estimated 40 million the on the low end.

"Oopsie, my b."

All is forgiven.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

What does the Y axis represent here?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

If we read it as a political compass

Auth+

Lib-

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"Y" is the name of one of the major meme/shitpost contributors on lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Technically, the X-axis doesn't represent anything either, as the far-right plot point curves upward, rather than continuing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It looks like another way of drawing the political compass left/right (collective vs individual rights) on the x axis and authoritarian/libertarian (obedience to centralized authority hierarchy vs distributed political pluralism) on the y axis. Tankies and far right would be in auth q1 and q2, far left q3, and not representing q4 labeling the quadrants from top left clockwise.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago

The amount of mental gymnastics being done to justify their ideology

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Separation from reality, maybe?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

we don't, we just hate the us more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 minutes ago

It's obvious you hate yourselves most.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

There's no support for the Russian Federation. Support for the USSR? Absolutely, but not the RF. There's critical support, as in the RF currently takes an antagonistic stance towards the United States, which many Leftists see as the greater global evil, but no leftist genuinely thinks the RF is doing that out of "good intentions" or has any model that Leftists should replicate.

That sums it up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Tankie" here, russia sucks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

What makes you a "tankie" if you don't share their beliefs?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I can't help but wonder if tankies are the political equivalent of flat-earthers. I should probably ask that on NSQ some time, when I can figure out a way of asking that won't get me banned.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 hours ago

Hexbear is cool. I've learned a lot from them. the thing is, some of the people there can be a little brash at first. I recommend looking around the instance a bit before you decide on blocking it. some of them can be a little brash but they mean well.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 hours ago

"Oh no, block the people that want everyone's needs to be met"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

my first account was on lemmy.ml because it was one of the top options on one of the apps I used. it stopped working with jerboa which why I switched to lemmy.world...

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