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Is porn an annoying project [spams a bunch of thinking emoji]

Been a long time since last I've seen a good honest Snafu

I guess it does feel like 2016 in here with neofascists on their way back to power in the US and all that.

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Yeah, sex is cool, but have you ever closed like 50 browser tabs after finishing an annoying project?

One mostly exports the genocide to the third world

The other wants to bring it home.

I'm from Mastodon

But I got to Mastodon from Reddit, so idk if that counts. :P

I am going to commit several violent acts (in Stellaris)

At the same time, years of propaganda by monied interests have led us up to this point

See you're right but --

-- Those monied interests are also coming from within. The wealthy and powerful from America who see this as a way to consolidate and protect their own wealth and power.

Silicon Valley wanted Neofascism. Wall Street wanted Neofascism. Fracking Barons like the Koch Brother(s) wanted Neofascism. Some out in the open, like the afore-mentioned Koch(s) and Elon Musk, but make no mistake, every billionaire who "shuts up about politics" is most likely a Neofascist in private, because this benefits them.

The people in America are heavily propagandised, but that propaganda is funded and developed by and for the benefit of the wealthy within America itself.

Some people lean really hard into the whole "russian influence" thing because it is comforting. And it is entirely possible that there ARE Russian fingers in this pie -- Russia does benefit from a weakened America, in any way they CAN weaken it. Heck, China and the Middle Eastern powers do too, so maybe they have fingers in that pie too.

But never forget that it started with wealthy Americans, and not some foreign agent. And if every foreign influence walked away, it would continue without them.

Theoretically, The Revolution™ that lefties like me talk about could change things. Just like theoretically, a peaceful political reform could change things. Theoretically.

But I'm from the third world. Hopelessness is my ~~bread and butter~~ rice and beans. So I'm entirely accustomed to daydreaming of one day things changing, while expecting elections to change nothing, and knowing for a fact that any attempt at armed fighting would most likely end in a victory for the bad guys (they have the bigger guns).

The idea of "things are already fucked, have been since before you were born, if you want to make a difference, look out for yourself and those you CAN help, make a difference in the micro, because The System as a macro thing is outside your reach entirely" is in fact how most people have dealt with things since forever, and we survive.

This post is about recovery, not abandonment

Recovery from what? Fascism is what your own neighbours chose. This is the system working exactly as intended and pretending it's not is covering one's own eyes. There are hundreds of millions of Americans for whom this is a good day. They have the backing of the wealthy and powerful. And their project is to remove any chance of them ever losing power again.

Thinking you'll stop something like Project 2025 in the ballot box is willful ignorance at this point.

Since OP has already made it clear that "violent uprising" is not on the cards, then the alternative is to get out while they can. Hopefully while helping others do the same. Save themselves and their own. Survive and maybe you can make a difference from the outside.

When Germany went all Nazi in the 30s~40s you know who DID make a difference? Not the political opposition who got slaughtered. And not the people who let the Nazis walk all over them while claiming they were still better because they were "civil". It was resistance fighters who helped the allies fight and minorities to escape. And people who got out of Germany and then joined the fight on the side of the allies.

Also:

Eat shit.

Don't threaten me with a good time, gringo <3

~~This has actually all been a very elaborate "come to Brazil" meme on my part.~~

~~Jokes aside, given how a lot of our people tend to worship the floor 'Murica walks on, if a bunch of refugees from the US came over, they'd probably be welcomed with open arms. :P~~

It would.

But I think that ship has sailed.

And honestly it might be the third-worlder-accustomed-to-things-being-uttter-bullshit in me. But I think "Winning back the country" is an unrealistic and foolhardy goal. Everyone who is on the radar for being harmed by Trump should look out for themselves and their own. Which includes "getting the fuck out of the country" if that is what it takes.

Additionally: A significant portion of the country won today. They got exactly what they wanted. And pretending that this neofascism is some kind of external infection is tantamount to covering one's own ears.

Honestly at this point y'all should just get the fuck out. Where to? Anywhere honestly. You'll probably find the third world preferable to a post project 2025 Murica.

Russia's been having a major brain drain issue as all people with functioning brains either have escaped or want to escape the country. I don't see why Americans should do any different.