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What is hexbear? (leminal.space)

submitted 13 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don't get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.

Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it's also because I'm a Marxist. The ones saying they are "pretending" to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else.

If I were you, I'd ask on an instance actually federated with them. You'll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

I'll do you one better, why is Hexbear??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Hexbear is cool. I've learned a lot from them. the thing is, some of the people there can be a little brash at first. I recommend looking around the instance a bit before you decide on blocking it. some of them can be a little brash but they mean well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 minutes ago

Its a leftist space that sometimes has trolls

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

You should block hexbear

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 32 minutes ago

I mean Mao greatly regretted his plans and was very sad they didnt work, he went onto become a vegan and grow his own food as to not get the food meant for the workers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

What does the Y axis represent here?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 minutes ago

Technically, the X-axis doesn't represent anything either, as the far-right plot point curves upward, rather than continuing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

The amount of mental gymnastics being done to justify their ideology

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It looks like another way of drawing the political compass left/right (collective vs individual rights) on the x axis and authoritarian/libertarian (obedience to centralized authority hierarchy vs distributed political pluralism) on the y axis. Tankies and far right would be in auth q1 and q2, far left q3, and not representing q4 labeling the quadrants from top left clockwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Separation from reality, maybe?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 26 minutes ago

There's no support for the Russian Federation. Support for the USSR? Absolutely, but not the RF. There's critical support, as in the RF currently takes an antagonistic stance towards the United States, which many Leftists see as the greater global evil, but no leftist genuinely thinks the RF is doing that out of "good intentions" or has any model that Leftists should replicate.

That sums it up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 31 minutes ago

"Tankie" here, russia sucks

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago

I can't help but wonder if tankies are the political equivalent of flat-earthers. I should probably ask that on NSQ some time, when I can figure out a way of asking that won't get me banned.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

"Oh no, block the people that want everyone's needs to be met"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

my first account was on lemmy.ml because it was one of the top options on one of the apps I used. it stopped working with jerboa which why I switched to lemmy.world...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

yeah the other two I definately agree with, but lemmy.ml is mostly tame.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago

It's all under the surface, the admins, mods and a good portion of users have just as extreme viewpoints, but tend to walk the line quite carefully to avoid being defederated by .world

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago

I'm sorry u had to experience these extremists. Block the instance and forget about them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

To add to your comment: Blocking the instance at user level is pointless, it only blocks their posts,not their users, so you still have to deal with their bullshit and they post their propaganda at every instance that tolerates them so it makes its way to those who blocked it anyway.
The only solution is to defederate.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

Howdy! Can confirm that most people and places I've seen on the Fediverse are lovely... Except Hexbear. They're one wall of cognitive dissonance away from being right wingers and constantly complaining that liberals are all lying to themselves about their liberalism. That THEY are the TRUE left wingers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I nearly left lemmy because of Hexbear. Learning they could be blocked salvaged the platform for me. It's not just you - they are pretty widely reviled.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still we the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies, mostly. They're on my blocklist,but managed to avoid it for a disgustingly long time; they do have some good content from time to time, but in the end seeing the repeated vitriol and genocide denialism simply wasn't worth it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I think a lot of Lemmings tried to give them a chance when we first joined, because we are pretty left leaning already so we figured communists couldn't be that bad. Unfortunately, they're actually far more moronic and toxic than anyone could possibly imagine.

I used to recommend for people to make up their own mind whether to block them, but I now feel it's better to block them immediately, because they're really just the worst kind of people who will do anything to bring others down to their level of misery.

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