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If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.

Edit: Better image, thanks to @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Actually... Shit. That's kind of a good point. His approach was the non-violent solution.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (12 children)

If we're fighting with the same weapons, then Biden's last act should be a pardon for Luigi...

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago

Biden is not on our side on this issue, that's part of the problem. He is and was the candidate that the people who didn't want healthcare reform pushed in to block Bernie from putting the issue on the ballot by running on it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I keep hearing this idea floated, do people really think that Biden is not on the same side as the health insurance companies??

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (35 children)

I upvoted, but these kinds of posts make me uncomfortable. Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

I am very happy about the discussions his actions are creating and the overreaction from the upper class, but I am not sure it is a good idea to glorify Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Explain how Batman was not a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis ?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

lmaooo

tangentially I feel like Batman could never jive with leftist ideology anyhow. His whole thing is beating and scaring the crime out of people, which is in contrast to the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.

Like, why do people always jump to thinking there can only be one correct option out of multiple choices?

I am sure there are many people committing crimes because they can't fulfill their basic needs any other way.

But do you think Trump is lacking in material conditions? People are diverse and they commit crimes for diverse reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (30 children)

Good point ☝️

Also batman didn't change the systemic issues with Gotham.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

That sounds a lot like Batman.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

That's why I use Saint Luigi. It's a ignore all the things that don't line up with the ideal, and only focus on those that do kind of thing. Just like the churches do with thier saints. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you’re waiting for perfect, you’ll be waiting for ever.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think he's a hero, but his actions are the inevitable outcome of our system.

When justice can no longer be achieved through peaceful demonstration or the legal system, people will increasingly turn to violence as their only option.

While I won't celebrate violence, I do prefer targeted violence upon those causing the damage to mass murders of innocents.

If you're going to murder someone - don't. But if that doesn't stop you, I'd rather the victim be someone who damages the world instead of schoolchildren and churchgoers.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There will never be the perfect Robin Hood. Engels was wealthy, Bernie is a millionaire.

Really the point is that Luigi is (allegedly) right, and represents a justifiable sentiment of disdain for the system and class solidarity.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not glorifying Luigi. He's a vigilante. The health insurance companies are criminals in the eye of the majority, and the majority can't get it changed through legal peaceful means. The vigilante sees an injustice and takes it upon themselves to enact justice extrajudicially.

As we have seen, the majority appears to to support his actions. His background is unimportant. Humans are very grey. That's one of the things that democracy can account for.

Think of it this way: if he was willing to risk all that he had to enact justice once does that not make him better than many of us? How many of us have smaller amounts of excess, are directly impacted by the health insurance companies, yet have done nothing but take steps that have not helped anyone else? That's the definition of sacrifice rather than compromise.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Honestly, I feel about the same. Meme is funny, and I thoroughly enjoy the discussion, which is why I posted it, but I want actual leftist leaders in charge, not actual Luigi.

The point though is: Bernie was the working class trying to better the system from the inside. If the system keeps fucking us over, the system CAN be overthrown through different means.

The political class better realise that it's in their favour to have us change the system non violently.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I appreciate you trying to shift the narrative and demonize our modern day folk hero, but it’s probably not going to work.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a symbol. People are attracted to the idea that someone could coolly shoot an evil guy and (for a couple days) get away with it.

If he had hurt innocents or fumbled the execution (pun intended) he wouldn't be so popular.

Also consider how our institutions are failing us. People feel, often rightly so, that the systems aren't working for them. The supreme Court is openly corrupt and makes wildly unpopular decisions. Health care is a shit show. The police somewhat routinely kill innocent people and their dogs. Plus a bunch of stuff that's not true but people believe. It feels like there's no path forward, and then some smooth guy just shoots one of the perpetrators dead? Amazing.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I'd vote for him. Or against his conviction, if I was on his jury.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

I love this.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if we nominate him, lawyers can drag out his case until ...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Holy shit yeah it's a get outta jail free card right?!

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