jwiggler

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Teacher: "Slavery was bad."

Republicans: "We need to end this indoctrination of our children."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It is already broken -- and he has succeeded -- is what I'm getting at. But Democrats will still try to use the thing.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I fucking hate how I agree with Jesse Watters when he says

It's also crazy that they call this guy a dictator and when he won they're like "Oh we're gonna help you transition,"

The Republican party is done with any sort of politeness or goodwill, to the point of not conceding elections. They are breaking the system and rebuilding it in the aftermath. You can't stop them from breaking the thing by using the thing itself.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It doesn’t walk in saying, “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”

Yeah but evidently it does, and people still choose it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Appreciate you actually inputting your view.You're right in that I was mixing colloquial terms with technical ones, and thus my statements were wrong, or at least misleading. A market is not a resource, but a marketplace can be a factor of production, the owner of which is paid a rent.

When I referred to the online marketplace of Steam as a resource, I was comparing Steam to a marketplace, like a business complex, which is a capital good and a factor of production for businesses operating out of the business complex. Those businesses operating out of the complex pay a rent to the owner of that business complex. We don't see traditional production in the games industry, wherein if you as a business have produced X amount of output, you have also created X amount of income. With cars or grain or tangible products, when you turn inputs into outputs, you own the value of the outputs. That's not true for a videogame, whose value comes from the sale. In that sense, Steam is a factor of production in that value-creation process -- it is an input -- and as such, game devs pay a rent to Valve for that.

I'm not saying there are no operational costs for Steam. All I'm saying is they charge a form of rent to the creators of videogames. That rent may encapsulate other benefits, like being put on the front of the Steam store (marketing), analytics, tools for devs to interact with customers, etc. But it is still rent, since it comes in my opinion before the value is created.

I mean, there is a reason the individual in the article, and Valve's own former resident economist Yanis Varoufakis refer to Steam as a digital fiefdom. It is a digital equivalent of peasants paying a rent to work on an owner's land. In this case, Steam as a factor of production is not land, but capital.

Then again, I'm not an economist. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thank you. I don't think I'm being stupid, but you have made me think about it a lot, so I appreciate that. You are right that the online marketplace is not a fixed resource, that's not technically right at all. I was thinking for a long time, "did I misunderstand that?" I certainly didn't think about the input vs output aspect of production. This led me to do some more reading and here's what I've got.

I do still think Steam is factor of production in that it is a capital good, like a business complex. The problem with your outputs argument, I think, is outputs are the quantity and quality of goods or services produced in a given time period. Well, for the devs, there really isn't an output in the traditional productive sense. They didn't produce a bunch of cars, creating X amount of value through their labor. The value is only created when copies are sold, and in that sense Steam,, and other game stores are inputs in the value created by a game dev. I think one could even make an argument that publishers provide a service and Steam is involved in that as a factor of production, but I think that speaks more to the strangeness of the software market in general. Anyways thanks for actually taking the time, I got to learn some cool stuff and feel a little humbled in the process so that is good

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