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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A 74-year-old who is dying of cancer was chosen over a 35-year-old rising star at the insistence of an 84-year-old woman (who is currently undergoing hip replacement surgery) just months after an 81-year-old Presidential candidate was forced to drop out of the race because he showed sever symptoms of cognitive decline during a debate. If this were a satire about a gerontocracy, I would think it was too over the top.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And a 78 year old is president elect

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Oh yeah, if we're talking Republicans too, don't forget that the 82-year-old Senate minority leader, who has had mysterious freezing spells this year, was hospitalized for a fall just last week.

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I’m glad congressional Democrats are finally taking steps to deal with their sclerotic, ineffective and increasingly out-of-touch leadership and building a future with younger—oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The thing that made me so pessimistic about the future of this country was when I learned that the people who advised Hillary's 2016 campaign were still advising Harris' 2024 campaign. They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic, but they held on to their positions anyway. I have no reason to think they won't be back in 2028, because the people who have a say in who gets party leadership are people selected by the old leadership. We need a borderline hostile takeover of the Democrat party, and after Trump did it to the Republicans, the existing powers in the Democrat party only entrenched themselves further.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (6 children)

the people who advised Hillary’s 2016 campaign were still advising Harris’ 2024 campaign.

And still running the DNC.

Biden and Kamala inherited everything from Hillary, the people behind the scenes are the same, and are still likely listening to Hillary

She's like our Dick Cheney

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

They failed multiple times and the consequences have been catastrophic,

They succeeded in the only thing that matters to Democratic leadership: They kept a progressive from winning the nomination.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The future of this country is not in the hands of the Democratic party if this is the way of things.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago

Leadership Democrats: Fumble the ball for three downs, then throws an interception

"Well, its no longer my fault if the opposition scores."

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

AOC runs several investigations that lead to results.

Connelly... Is old and has seniority.

Great fucking job Democrats. Getting my seat warmer ready for ~~2022~~ 2026 already!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (5 children)

"Everyone sort of made the case that they would be the best to help change the message across the country. ... He's a very good communicator," said Beyer.

Oh yeah that's exactly what's going to fix the problem Democrats have. Electing another old ass Clinton era Democrat to a position of power. It's not like everybody's pissed at them for losing the Presidency, the House, and the Senate all in one go.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

It’s not like everybody’s pissed at them for losing the Presidency, the House, and the Senate all in one go.

With their amazing communication skills.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Shit like this (Pelosi putting her thumb on the scale) is why people are questioning if they'll ever vote Democrat again.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago

if trump keeps his promise- and this is one time I actually believe him- we won't ever have to vote democrat again!

(because he'll fuck over democracy and make that illegal.)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Shit like this (Pelosi putting her thumb on the scale) is why people are questioning if they’ll ever vote Democrat again.

Yep, 100% this is at Pelosi's feet. Fuck Nancy Pelosi, and honsestly fuck every D Boomer in congress who won't get out of the way for the younger generations. You are actively holding us back.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I don’t see an alternative and it’s making me hate democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can add me to the list. I voted democrat this previous election in an effort to prevent *gestures around* this, but I didn't want to for a number of reasons. I don't trust the green party with Stein. I have no idea what I will do next election. I always vote for the most progressive "local" (I'm an overseas voter, but as long as I have to file taxes and get fucked by the IRS by not being able to use retirement accounts here, I'mma vote) candidate, but I don't think I've ever seen anything other than D and R in my district except maybe an I once or twice.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (53 children)

AOC should abandon the Democratic party. She should join Bernie as an god-damned Independent.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 days ago (1 children)

She and Bernie should start a progressive party.

I'm tired of Democrats bowing to oligarchs.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 days ago

HEADLINE: AFTER SEVERAL BEATINGS, DEMOCRATS LEARN NO LESSONS

More the stupid us for thinking things would be any different this time.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

She lost to a 74yr old…yeah that guy needs to retire. Get out of the fucking way.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

Democrats running out of foot to shoot themselves in

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (2 children)

AOC loses key vote in House Oversight race to Gerry Connolly

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

an Old. White. man.

Seriously. It's pissing me off; more so the republicans doing it. we need minority voices. We can't expect the republicans to do it- lets just be honest here. and I doubt very much if Connolly will be able to push back nearly as much as AOC can and will. (never mind, whether or not he's willing.)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (5 children)

An old white man with cancer that he announced a month ago. He should be focusing on his treatment, not adding more to his plate.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Gerry Connolly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly

The Congressman's Congressman. He represents the district right outside DC. Also, prior to running for office he worked as an aide to the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations where he managed committee oversight of international economic issues, international narcotics control, and United Nations and Middle East policies, and published reports on U.S. policy in El Salvador, Central America, Israel, and the Persian Gulf region.

So, expect a guy who will toe the line on all our accumulated foreign policy blunders while banging a gavel to silence another generation of anti-war protesters.

It gets worse than that, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly#Legislation_sponsored

Sponsoring legislation with Darrell Issa - a shameless, virulent Silicon Valley shill of a politician - as Trump lards up his cabinet with Friends of Peter Thiel is a bleak sign for the future.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Gerry Connolly more like Gerry Atric.

If AOC sticks with the Democratic party instead of going independent she proves the DNC was right to deny her power. Why bother caving to AOC'S demands if she will keep sheepdogging people to the party and get nothing in return?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Cool a 74 year old, that’s the life expectancy of a male in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What they're saying: Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), a Connolly ally, acknowledged Connolly's greater seniority likely played a role in his win but argued "it wasn't just that."

It wasn't just that. He also has a penis

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

The only thing that mattered was that his opponent was a progressive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That does it for me. I'm changing my voter registration to independent. This party no longer represents me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I did mine the day after they lost to trump again. This party needs to die so a real oligarch opposition party can take it's place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

As a young voter, I've always been Independent because I knew Democratic party was shit.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago

This country is totally capable of fighting off creeping fascism. It's the Democrat leadership that's not up to the task.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Connolly had 34 and AOC had 27, but there is a full caucus vote tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

One House Democrat aligned with Ocasio-Cortez told Axios that steering is "made up of the most senior members," making it not her most receptive venue.

Because having senior members has worked so well so far...I get senior also means experience, but we need some new blood too, not status quo. And the past experience so far with AOC's roles in committees shows she has what's needed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunate, but it'll give her more time to work with Bernie and labor leaders to organize a general strike

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hence why I staunchly refuse to donate to Democrats currently. Fuck these old ass, no idea jackasses clinging onto old shit ideas and continuing to lose at every god damn level of politics.

I hope AOC continues to be a light and the fight in the Democratic party that doesn't deserve her.

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